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  • Why analyse?

    Posted by Anonymous on 05/02/2013 at 9:25 am

    Here in the forums we’ve been in deep discussion lately, analysing this & that.

    So I’ve been thinking…why analyse?

    Is it O.K. to ask questions? Should we or shouldn’t we?

    I thought that we should undertake a survey to determine if we over analyse things.
    What do you think?

    This is a binary survey, there are only two possible answers ‘yes’ or ‘no’.
    Any person answering in a manner that creates a spectrum between ‘yes’ & ‘no’ will be deemed as off topic, however, as this is an unmoderated forum no action will be taken.
    N.B. This survey has not been approved by Admin.
    Any person who answers other than ‘yes’ or ‘no’ will be labelled as; Tg = Transgressor.

    So the question is: should we have a survey to determine if we over analyse stuff?

    please remember, this forum is for fun stuff

    JaneS replied 12 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Adrian

    Member
    05/02/2013 at 9:48 am

    I’m not sure we should rush straight into the survey.

    I think we should first draft a mission statement so we are all on board and are singing from the same hymn sheet.

    Then let’s put in place a value proposition, pick out the key drivers and look for the low hanging fruit.

    When we have identified the value add we can move forward, draft a survey, shoot it against the wall and see what sticks.

    We shouldn’t really be pushing the envelope with this thing but ensuring customer centricity is essential.

    Before going live we need to incentivise the membership to respond otherwise the whole project will be like herding cats and go belly-up.

    Do I make myself clear?

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    05/02/2013 at 1:15 pm

    Umm – yes?

    I think that is an ok answer – maybe?

  • JeniSkunk

    Member
    06/02/2013 at 9:13 am

    Chloe, don’t forget that when you craft a survey, make sure that the questions will give the survey results you want for distribution via the Media.
    For an example of how this is applied, see Yes Prime Minister, ep 2, ‘The Ministerial Broadcast’

    Jenifur Charne

    Quote:
    (added by A-A)
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: [demonstrating how public surveys can reach opposite conclusions] Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the rise in crime among teenagers?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there is lack of discipline and vigorous training in our Comprehensive Schools?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think young people welcome some structure and leadership in their lives?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do they respond to a challenge?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Might you be in favour of reintroducing National Service?
    Bernard Woolley: Er, I might be.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Yes or no?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Of course, after all you’ve said you can’t say no to that. On the other hand, the surveys can reach opposite conclusions.
    [survey two]
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the danger of war?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Are you unhappy about the growth of armaments?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there’s a danger in giving young people guns and teaching them how to kill?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think it’s wrong to force people to take arms against their will?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Would you oppose the reintroduction of conscription?
    Bernard Woolley: Yes.
    [does a double-take]
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: There you are, Bernard. The perfectly balanced sample.
  • Anonymous

    Guest
    06/02/2013 at 9:26 am

    Thank you Jenifur, I will ensure that the appropriate members draft a suitable memo for distribution to those concerned with achieving said outcome.
    Your input is greatly valued as I had inadvertantly overlooked the potential value of the data to those who are not respondents of said survey.
    The media of course will be invaluable in disseminating the unquestionably unbiased but judisciously analysed results.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    06/02/2013 at 10:33 am

    I was going to answer YES to this survey but due to the inability of the server to allow one word answers I had to pad out my answer a little and while doing that I realised that my position in this survey is not really a tenable one because I am guilty of starting a forum that discusses the possibilities of change by analysing a subject to death as it were.

    So I feel that the correct answer to this question if I were to be totally honest and truthful to myself, would be um what was the question again I think I have over analysed my answer and lost the plot a little.

    Oh I remember the question now, so perhaps my answer would be YES and perhaps it would be NO. It would all depend on the relevant context of the question with regard to the subject matter. Perhaps if the question was a little simpler I could analyse it better for you and give a more positive slant to the possibility of a YES or NO answer.

    Hope this has helped you find an agreable solution to your problem.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    06/02/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Well it really is positively impossible to hold said survey before we first determine the possible meanings of the words yes and no. To which I fear we must hold a presurvey to ensure we are indeed sure of the possible meanings of these words binary and contradictory as they may at first seem. There should then follow a poll to determine if the result of said survey should or should not be accepted as true or false however, whenever and whatever we believe or not in the future or past. There that should clearly answer any question.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    07/02/2013 at 10:34 am

    I have been involved in several analyses and in most cases the final analysis reveals that the initial gut feeling is correct. We seem to revel in over analysing the simplest of matters and in so doing create reams of paper as well as create innumerable what ifs? I tend to get tired of reading the analysis and the associated tomes of back up data, in the end the first feeling you have is normally the right one……

  • JaneS

    Member
    07/02/2013 at 10:40 am

    Sometimes with surveys you have to play hardball. The bottom line is that you need to be proactive not reactive and get the ticks in th boxes. Just between us, you have to think outside the box and change ther mindset to come up with a win-win situation.
    Keep the big picture in mind and stretch the envelope without moving the goal posts.
    Time to put this one to bed.