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  • From the Sunday Age, 18/10/15

    Posted by Julia on 18/10/2015 at 8:57 am

    This was in today’s Age (possibly in Sydney’s Fairfax press as well)

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/we-dont-look-after-people-like-you-transgender-people-refused-medical-care-20151015-gk9ss1

    Quote:
    Transgender people have been refused medical care, kicked out of their jobs and forced to undergo psychiatric and surgical procedures in a systematic violation of their human rights, new research has found.

    An Australian-first study of the experiences of older trans people reveals many have faced a lifetime of discrimination and abuse, leading to fears they will be forced back into the closet when entering aged care services.

    Refusal of care from GPs, psychiatrists, dentists and other medical specialists was a common experience for the study’s participants, with some saying doctors had denied them treatment on moral or religious grounds.

    Advocates say that while prejudice against gay and lesbian Australians is decreasing, the trans community still faces widespread discrimination.

    They want government funding to be boosted to ensure better training for aged care and medical staff.

    “Trans people often aren’t well informed about their human rights and are embarrassed or struggle to do something about discrimination when it happens.

    “They feel the consequences of complaining will make the situation worse rather than address the injustice that has taken place,” said Brenda Appleton from Transgender Victoria.

    The study, commissioned by La Trobe University’s Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health and Society, in conjunction with Transgender Victoria and The Gender Centre, involved in-depth interviews with 15 trans men and women, detailing the barriers they face in accessing healthcare, employment and aged care services.

    Many said seeking medical treatment was often an ordeal as they frequently faced prejudice and had more knowledge of trans health issues than their doctors.

    *Alfred said when he went to hospital in the late 1990s staff went on strike and refused to treat him because he was trans.

    “I was in emergency, I woke up naked and in a room and they had me in a four-bed ward. All the beds had been taken out, everything, and I was in the corner and basically no one came near me.”

    *William said a dentist told him, “We just don’t look after people like you”, while Sandy was forced into psychiatric treatment and electro convulsive therapy.

    “One psychiatrist taught me to lie to my father, to other psychiatrists to protect myself. That was sort of the beginning of creating an alter ego with myself trapped inside. I got married three times, had four children, tried very hard to be ‘normal’,” Sandy said.

    Employers still discriminating against trans community

    Many reported they had lost their jobs, particularly if they had transitioned in the workplace.

    Appleton, who is co-chair of Minister for Equality, Martin Foley’s LGBTI taskforce, said these issues were still a problem for trans and gender diverse people today.

    “I have many friends who have been discriminated against in the workplace and they don’t complain because they fear if they take action against their employers it will mark them as a trouble-maker for the rest of their working life,” she said.

    “We are also seeing that in the aged care sector and as more people are confident to be themselves and express their gender as they feel it, a lot more education and training will need to be provided to try and rectify the discrimination that is still taking place.”

    Transgender Victoria and Gay and Lesbian Health Victoria have been conducting training for staff in aged care facilities for the past year but funding for the education programs runs out in June next year.

    Another common complaint from study participants was the entrenched discrimination in documentation laws, which they say is leading to “forced sterilisation” for many trans people.

    In Victoria, someone who is biologically female must undergo a full hysterectomy in order to have their birth certificate changed to male.

    But many people feel they do not require radical surgery to live as their affirmed gender and want the laws changed to make it easier for people to be themselves.

    For older trans people entering aged care services and hospitals, where there are often gender segregated wards, there are fears they will be forced into a ward that does not match their identity.

    Study co-author J.R Latham said as a trans man he found the research very difficult to conduct because it highlighted the “devastating stigma, discrimination, prejudice, rejection and barbaric treatment” many trans people had faced.

    “While our young people are finding their voices and feeling empowered to speak up and assert their rights, which is fantastic, far fewer older trans people are in this position,” he said.

    The research will be launched at the national LGBTI ageing and aged care conference in Melbourne on Oct 26.

    Mr Foley said: “We know that, after a lifetime of battling homophobia and discrimination, trans people who are growing older often encounter new kinds of discrimination. Some older members of this community suffer problems including ongoing conflict with families and loved ones, refusal of care and forced treatment. This has to change.

    “Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity at every stage of their life. As Minister for Equality and Minister for Ageing, I am committed to building a system of care that is LGBTI-friendly. Ageing trans people should not be forced back in the closet just because they are older.”

    Anonymous replied 9 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Anonymous

    Guest
    18/10/2015 at 10:19 am

    You get treated subhuman. People in customer service suddenly don’t see a customer, but sub human. And I’m very good looking and presentable person. They literally abuse you, and they are at work!

  • Carol

    Member
    19/10/2015 at 2:22 am

    This study was of 15 transmen and 15 transwomen in one State reporting instances of discrimination over their lifetimes. I’d venture to say that in modern times things are much better. I’ve certainly found no instances of medical discrimination over the past 5 years though I was too chicken to test the water before that.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    19/10/2015 at 7:35 am

    I’ve had a number of presentations to Emergency departments of hospitals in the ACT and NSW over the last 2 years, including two ambulance trips. With one exception, each time I was in full femme mode. I’ve never felt that I was not given appropriate treatment as a result of my transgender status, although there’s been some serious medical incompetence that I assume (hope) was not connected to my gender identity. I’ve had a heart attack, stent, bypass and now ongoing arrhythmia problems. I do not have private health insurance, so my experiences are wholly within the public system.

    With a couple of exceptions, the nurses and junior doctors have referred to me by my female name (their having asked what I prefer to be called), despite my official male medicare name that I haven’t yet managed to change. Specialists are a different story who, with the exception of my current cardiologist, tend not to use any name nor to introduce themselves by name.

    Also, by and large, the nurses, doctors and auxiliary staff have been very respectful and understanding, some taking the time to chat with me and understand my journey.

    After a recent admission to St Vincents in Sydney, the discharge report referred not only to my female name but also spoke of “she” and “her”. I was quite touched. Also, while in St Vincents and unable to walk to the toilet I was treated as female when needing to wee. So, in an emergency get yourself to St Vinnies if you can!

    Regards.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    19/10/2015 at 7:58 am
    Chantelle wrote:
    I’ve had a number of presentations to Emergency departments of hospitals in the ACT and NSW over the last 2 years, including two ambulance trips. With one exception, each time I was in full femme mode. I’ve never felt that I was not given appropriate treatment as a result of my transgender status, although there’s been some serious medical incompetence that I assume (hope) was not connected to my gender identity. I’ve had a heart attack, stent, bypass and now ongoing arrhythmia problems. I do not have private health insurance, so my experiences are wholly within the public system.

    With a couple of exceptions, the nurses and junior doctors have referred to me by my female name (their having asked what I prefer to be called), despite my official male medicare name that I haven’t yet managed to change. Specialists are a different story who, with the exception of my current cardiologist, tend not to use any name nor to introduce themselves by name.

    Also, by and large, the nurses, doctors and auxiliary staff have been very respectful and understanding, some taking the time to chat with me and understand my journey.

    After a recent admission to St Vincents in Sydney, the discharge report referred not only to my female name but also spoke of “she” and “her”. I was quite touched. Also, while in St Vincents and unable to walk to the toilet I was treated as female when needing to wee. So, in an emergency get yourself to St Vinnies if you can!

    Regards.

    The charity arm of st vinnies has vilified me grievously on two occasions here in Brisbane. In Sydney when they gave me food vouchers I told the lady I should be able to get a job at coles, she said, ” well they must have lowered their standards!”

    I’m a shit magnet. It’s hell.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    19/10/2015 at 8:09 am

    I’m really saddened that you’ve had those experiences Fiona and I don’t doubt what you’ve said. I know others who have similar experiences to yours.

    As for myself, I’ve had no such experiences, even outside of the medical system, apart from occasional coldness in clothing stores and obscene remarks from the odd male delinquent. Perhaps this is because I’m older (65), or perhaps because I give off a “don’t even think of messing with me” aura. Whatever the reason, I’m grateful I don’t “cop it”, given my heart condition.

    Regards.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    19/10/2015 at 8:44 am
    Chantelle wrote:
    I’m really saddened that you’ve had those experiences Fiona and I don’t doubt what you’ve said. I know others who have similar experiences to yours.

    As for myself, I’ve had no such experiences, even outside of the medical system, apart from occasional coldness in clothing stores and obscene remarks from the odd male delinquent. Perhaps this is because I’m older (65), or perhaps because I give off a “don’t even think of messing with me” aura. Whatever the reason, I’m grateful I don’t “cop it”, given my heart condition.

    Regards.

    ty for feeling sad for me.

    I get absolute fury and aggression from strange women every day. Those OP shops are hostile to me, but I actually get treated well in normal clothing shops, mostly.

    I think it’s because I fool men, not into bed or anything, just generally. So cis women really fight me hard. I don’t even want their ugly smelly asshat men.

    I’m almost but not quite passable. It feels like a circumstance where 2nd place is a loser.

    Omg I have trouble from them. Death stares, verbal abuse, physical menacing,

    my only comfort is they aren’t laughing, but furious. That’s a good sign imo.

    oh good I need trans friends.

  • Elizabeth

    Member
    20/10/2015 at 10:42 pm

    Please remember ladies, hostility is the perpetrators problem, not yours. My experiences in hospitals within the ACT has been very favourable. Although I enter such establishments as male, I do wear ladies gear whilst in bed and all the staff know I’m TG.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    20/10/2015 at 11:40 pm

    I had a woolworths full of women try to lynch me in canberra. It was harrowing

    Liz wrote:
    Please remember ladies, hostility is the perpetrators problem, not yours. My experiences in hospitals within the ACT has been very favourable. Although I enter such establishments as male, I do wear ladies gear whilst in bed and all the staff know I’m TG.
  • Deleted User

    Deleted User
    22/10/2015 at 2:33 am

    I have to say I find this article amazing. I remember when nurses went on strike for the first time ever in the early 80’s. It was so traumatic for them to actually walk off and leave their patients. To read they refused to look after someone, actually going on strike, cos the patient was trans is just incredible.
    I, like many, have had my share of negative reactions from people in public, usually rude young girls, (our natural enemy). It wasn’t pleasant but the sort of incidents reported in this article are staggering.
    I knew of a hospital pathology department that changed its policy when a trans woman attended. The practice was for the staff to call for the patient by reading out the title and name on the form as written.
    On one occasion, after asking for a ‘Mr’a young woman stood up. After this the staff all suggested dropping titles in future, just use surnames, to save the client’s embarrassment.

  • Deleted User

    Deleted User
    22/10/2015 at 2:49 am
    FionaP wrote:
    The charity arm of st vinnies has vilified me grievously on two occasions here in Brisbane. In Sydney when they gave me food vouchers I told the lady I should be able to get a job at coles, she said, ” well they must have lowered their standards!”
    I’m a shit magnet. It’s hell.

    That must have been awful for you. I have had one occasion were I had to retrieve some clothes from the local St Vinnies. I even showed photos of me in the garments so they could identify them. They were amazingly courteous and helpful even though I did try and deflect the probably obvious fact, to them, the clothes were in fact mine they fell over themselves helping.

    If anyone said anything rude like that to me, ‘Coles lowering their standards’ I would have reported them. Large organisations these days are very aware of peoples rights, they might not actually agree with them, but they do know they can be sued.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    22/10/2015 at 3:16 am
    ClaireStafford wrote:
    FionaP wrote:
    The charity arm of st vinnies has vilified me grievously on two occasions here in Brisbane. In Sydney when they gave me food vouchers I told the lady I should be able to get a job at coles, she said, ” well they must have lowered their standards!”
    I’m a shit magnet. It’s hell.

    That must have been awful for you. I have had one occasion were I had to retrieve some clothes from the local St Vinnies. I even showed photos of me in the garments so they could identify them. They were amazingly courteous and helpful even though I did try and deflect the probably obvious fact, to them, the clothes were in fact mine they fell over themselves helping.

    If anyone said anything rude like that to me, ‘Coles lowering their standards’ I would have reported them. Large organisations these days are very aware of peoples rights, they might not actually agree with them, but they do know they can be sued.

    I have a stack of anti discrimination forms I have to fill out. Queensland is horrible!

    I got assaulted and the bulldyke pigman that turned up when I reported it was a boisterous pig, who made a joke out of it. It was horrible.

    My vilification is large, ongoing and spanning vast areas of Brisbane now. For me it’s not really young women but women my age and older. The young 20 year olds mostly like me. But they always have.

    I have had older women stir up their children against me. It’s a horrible feeling having an aggressive 10 year old cavegirl death staring you with her chin up and thrust out.

    I took to driving to other suburbs to just go for walks. I was literally followed in cars on 2 occasions by older women. Obviously concerned members of the community. Assholes. I literally have a mob trailing me all the time, through my life.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    22/10/2015 at 3:22 am
    ClaireStafford wrote:
    I have to say I find this article amazing. I remember when nurses went on strike for the first time ever in the early 80’s. It was so traumatic for them to actually walk off and leave their patients. To read they refused to look after someone, actually going on strike, cos the patient was trans is just incredible.
    I, like many, have had my share of negative reactions from people in public, usually rude young girls, (our natural enemy). It wasn’t pleasant but the sort of incidents reported in this article are staggering.
    I knew of a hospital pathology department that changed its policy when a trans woman attended. The practice was for the staff to call for the patient by reading out the title and name on the form as written.
    On one occasion, after asking for a ‘Mr’a young woman stood up. After this the staff all suggested dropping titles in future, just use surnames, to save the client’s embarrassment.

    I don’t get issues from young girls.

    I say feminists are our “natural enemy”. Followed by older women. You do realize that beyond 30 women become less “liberal” and more conservative? It’s a well documented statistic.

    I think a lot of the young ones who have issue with it have crossdressing dads.

    Whatever the case, at least the thought police have cowed men down into a little puddle of crap on the ground. So we don’t have to worry much about them bastards. Hahaha!

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    24/10/2015 at 10:22 am

    Dear Fiona
    I’m sure you’re grievances seem insurmountable but aggression is no solution in most situations you should adopt the moral high ground. Don’t dwell on the bad things that happened yesterday look forward to the good things that could happen tomorrow most of us have had bad experiences but we don’t let them destroy us. Life helps those who help themselves. I’m sorry if this sounds trite but it’s true
    Hugs Julie

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    24/10/2015 at 4:09 pm
    Julie wrote:
    Dear Fiona
    I’m sure you’re grievances seem insurmountable but aggression is no solution in most situations you should adopt the moral high ground. Don’t dwell on the bad things that happened yesterday look forward to the good things that could happen tomorrow most of us have had bad experiences but we don’t let them destroy us. Life helps those who help themselves. I’m sorry if this sounds trite but it’s true
    Hugs Julie

    Can’t we just vent?

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    24/10/2015 at 7:20 pm

    There is no doubt that we, gender variant people, are the last frontier of LGBTI discrimination. I think the main reason is that, unlike other “Queer folk”, our status is usually very obvious, causing all manner of emotional reactions from observers. However, our situation is changing, albeit slowly.

    Personally, I have found that as my confidence in who I am has increased, or perhaps as my care factor for what people think has decreased, I have more positive interactions and fewer negative ones. I think that when I was tentative, nervous and hypersensitive to criticism I was “fair game” for being abused, it being a sad fact of life that some people pick on those who appear weak.

    Regards,
    C

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