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Are we there Yet ?
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No photo ever does that view justice from Circular Quay…just saying
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Hi Grrrls
Call me weird, but I like the world ‘not being there yet’. I like that my heart races as I step into the night, that my gender isn’t what it should be, that I am read as not quite woman despite my slim, tall elegance, that my sexiness shines through irrespective, that nicotine makes my stockinged legs tingle, and that a hand placed atop my thigh brings me undone.
Just sayin’
Jane
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JaneHenderson wrote:Hi Grrrls
Call me weird, but I like the world ‘not being there yet’. that I am read as not quite woman despite my slim, tall elegance, that my sexiness shines through irrespective, that nicotine makes my stockinged legs tingle, and that a hand placed atop my thigh brings me undone.
Jane
xxI have to say, this is possibly the most interesting observation on this thread thus far. Can we feel a thrill at being ‘read’? We are the next level of extreme sports. Skydiving, paragliding, wing-suit gliding? Pah! That’s nothing, I go out in a dress and heels.
Before I get jumped on, that observation is definitely tongue in cheek…………..Or is it?
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I have to agree there is a certain ‘piquancy’ to going out and being read. And looking good doing it. So I completely get where Jane and Claire are coming from. Not sure if that means we are not ‘there’ (because of the mere fact we can do it) but there is that element of being slightly less than 100% normal which adds spice to the adventure. In much of the world we would have no chance so I guess we are comparatively ‘there’ in most of western society.
Love to all
Tina xx
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TinaMartini wrote:I completely get where Jane and Claire are coming from.
Tina xxOh I am so ‘not’ there Tina. I prefer the quiet outings when I manage to blend or, very occasionally, pass. I don’t want excitement.
One other aspect of ‘Are we there yet’ occurs. In the old days, before Caitlyn and the rest where out and proud, it was relatively unknown. We might go out and, if someone looked twice, they were as likely to think ‘That’s a large woman’ before they thought, (or more likely shout), ‘That’s a man’.
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ClaireStafford wrote:Has this fame, or infamy, created some problems as well as solved some?As someone who has been tramping the streets of Sydney for a couple of decades let me assure you that before we were “nearly there there” there was never a time when the person on the street mistook me for a large woman.
Back in the “not remotely there” years you were far more likely to be called out as “Hey did you see the guy in a skirt” than you are now. With Caitlin et al came an awareness that “Tranny Spotting” wasn’t such a PC thing to do – more people now recognise you are transgender, but less people feel it is OK to make fun of it.
Of course there still are the dregs of humanity who boost their own self-ego by making fun of anything that doesn’t match their narrow view of acceptable. But I’m building up a list of names and they will be first to the wall when the revolution comes.
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Adrian, Let me assist with that list please?
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I’m loving the tangent that this thread has drifted off in to…..
I love being “read” too. There is no mistaking me for being anything other than what I am and, to paraphrase dear Claire, I have being tramping around Adelaide for donkey’s years and have never had any hassles whatsoever…quite the opposite in fact.
The ONLY thing that has ever happened of an eyebrow raising nature actually happened earlier this year. An older gentleman, clearly suffering some “bottle fatigue”, asked me where I had had my operation done. When I replied that I had my appendix out in a public hospital like most people he looked somewhat confused. C’est la vie.
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Emma_Thorne wrote:An older gentleman, clearly suffering some “bottle fatigue”, asked me where I had had my operation done. When I replied that I had my appendix out in a public hospital
like most people he looked somewhat confused. C’est la vie.He probably thought ‘Appendix; was a euphemism…Well, in pictures it could be the right shape, almost, maybe? .
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I guess sadly in the world of Trump. The answer is we make progress then like the Rocky Horror Show take a jump to the left and do the time warp backwards. That said and I’m feeling a bit low today I think the positive support the TG Community has established will come to the fore. So we get out there and show we are normal.
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I’ve just re-read the posts in this thread and the recent events in the US, regarding transgender members in their military, make me wonder if perhaps a few steps have been taken away from “there”.
Some of the comments to the myriad posts on the subject have demonstrated that in some quarters there is still some way to go.
US President Trump’s announcement seems to have emboldened a new wave of phobic comments so maybe reticence to get “out there” is justified. I’m fortunate to have not yet had a bad experience and having my wife frequently accompany me no doubt helps, but I wonder if it’s a case of not if I’ll have a bad experience but when? -
I think this is an excellent question !! And, as highlighted in the summary at the end, it has become more noticeable that Transgender policy if Govt Departments is far better than what it was say 10 years ago.. I know, for example , in the Department I work in, it is assured that when applying for a job placement, that certain stipulations are made to the selection panel on who cannot be marginalised and must be given the opportunity for and interview and employment.
Yes we are so lucky we live here in this country.. It could be worse … We could have Donald as a leader and banning Transgender people from the military.. Thank god we are progressive and not regressive….
