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Caitlyn Jenner
I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. My wife has been quite invested in the Kardashians for a little while so when I first heard about this whole story I was very interested to see how things would all turn out.
Firstly is this whole drama actually positive for the trans community or is it a hindrance?
And secondly what do you think about the correct use of pronouns in this story, Jenner doesn’t seem particularly bothered by correct use of pronouns at this stage.
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jordan wrote:Firstly is this whole drama actually positive for the trans community or is it a hindrance?Like the Time front cover the prime media exposure is definitely positive for awareness (if not perhaps acceptance, and certainly not understanding). The fact that the message is a stereotyped Hollywood Boy to Belle that has little relevance to 99.9% of transgender lives is unfortunate but unavoidable. Most of us are just too ordinary to make the front cover of Vanity Fair!
jordan wrote:And secondly what do you think about the correct use of pronouns in this story, Jenner doesn’t seem particularly bothered by correct use of pronouns at this stage.Pronouns get debated ad nausea in the labels forums. I certainly don;’t think there is such a thing as “correct” pronouns. If we are hung up on pronouns then we aren’t focusing on the important messages. Call me he or she – we shouldn’t care and I guess Jordon doesn’t. It is a problem created by the English language and not one we can hold individual journalists responsible for fixing.
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I’ve commented substantively on another site about Caitlyn but found myself slipping into a really bitchy mood. I mean she is just two years younger than me and a few months behind me in hormones and she looks like that! No wonder I’m green.
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Carol wrote:No wonder I’m green.
If you think Caitlyn would look like her Vanity Fair shoot if you met her in aisle 6 of Woolworths – then you really are green. Even the shots of her in the video(see above) tell a more realistic story.
But being bitchy is not a good look either. None of us is in a race to be the model of American Hollywood “beauty” – or we shouldn’t be. There is so much more richness to gender diversity than trying to achieve an unachievable standard of “perfection”. It is all about “becoming yourself” – not trying to become some dream or fantasy.
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Adrian wrote:If you think Caitlyn would look like her Vanity Fair shoot if you met her in aisle 6 of Woolworths – then you really are green. Even the shots of her in the video(see above) tell a more realistic story.
But being bitchy is not a good look either. None of us is in a race to be the model of American Hollywood “beauty” – or we shouldn’t be. There is so much more richness to gender diversity than trying to achieve an unachievable standard of “perfection”. It is all about “becoming yourself” – not trying to become some dream or fantasy.
I know. Caitlyn is riding the crest of a wave created by an entire team of professional enhancers and PR planners. I’m not really jealous and the last post by me was in the nature of “self-criticism” (as by the old style communists) designed to improve my future thinking.
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Adrian wrote:Carol wrote:No wonder I’m green.
It is all about “becoming yourself” – not trying to become some dream or fantasy.
Isn’t this the problem of Caitlyn Jenner, she is a part of a Hollywood production a Hollywood dream. Will we ever get to know Caitlyn Jenner, just as have we got to know Julia Roberts or Harrison Ford?
Our stories are more mundane, but more powerful and cannot be told in 100 to 300 minutes.
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We’ve been plugging the same old message to us ordinary folk for yonks;Be Yourself’ and not a copy of someone’s imagination. The original is far superior than a copy.
