Cis gender

[Anonymous]

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Have I been hiding in the closet too much lately, what’s a ciswoman?

[Anonymous]

CIS is that an anogram, abbreviation, slang, pidgin or Swahili ?
If some one tells me what CIS means I may well say OMG and LMAO..LOL
Throw an old duck a bone here ladies. LOL

[Adrian]

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CIS is that an anogram, abbreviation, slang, pidgin or Swahili ?

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I’ll answer the question here but move it later to a more appropriate home…as the question is not about the Libra affair!

According to Wikipedia….

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Cisgender is an adjective used in the context of gender issues and counselling to refer to a class of gender identities formed by a match between an individual’s gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one’s sex.

In the hands of Trans-warriors the term Cis-woman or Cis-man is invariably used to refer to
a) people who have no gender dysphoria (e.g. a woman who was born female)
b) a person who therefore cannot possibly understand the cause of the trans-warriors.
c) a term of derision to put down the opinions of those people as being irrelevant or ill-formed.

Do you get the message? Don’t use that term round here please!
(GG – genetic girl tends to be less offensive to those being labelled)

The funny side of it all, is that by using this label to distinguish themselves from Cis-women our transgender advocates are implying that their gender identity and behaviours do NOT match appropriately.

I can’t comment on their gender identity – but perhaps their behaviour leaves something to be desired… but that is a subject for another thread I guess…

Willingly going off-topic
Amanda!

[Anonymous]

Amanda – isn’t this just another aspect of labels?

And I think that you may find that the term GG (genetic girl) is equally inappropriate, as it does not recognise intersex people, who can be “girls” and “boys” – and everything in between – based on their genetic make up. Is an intersex woman a genetic woman?

Also, this term is sometimes considered somewhat condescending whereas “Genetic Woman” is increasingly more preferred (notwithstanding the issues relating to the use of the “genetic” qualifier).

It’s a complex world we live in, isn’t it?

[JeniSkunk]

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CIS is that an anogram, abbreviation, slang, pidgin or Swahili ?

It’s a medical abbreviation.
Working from memory, it’s Congential Intersex Syndrome.

Jenifur Charne

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Im not one for lables , tho i have to some times use them. .

Because some of us are different . ill just use im a intersexed woman ,
other than that im just another woman who did not change , & what would i change from to & after that its starts getting to messy with trying to explain to some people, & when all said & done , it still comes back to being a woman. just a bit different, thats all.

…noeleena…

[Anonymous]

It comes from this. It is an actual scientific term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism

It is used extensively by trans feminists. Also from Wikkipedia:

Literary use

The term has more recently been used in publications, such as a 2006 article in the Journal of Lesbian Studies[9] and Julia Serano’s 2007 book Whipping Girl.[10] Serano also uses the related terms cissexual, which she defines as “people who are not transsexual and who have only ever experienced their subconscious and physical sexes as being aligned” (p. 12), and cissexism, “which is the belief that transsexuals’ identified genders are inferior to, or less authentic than, those of cissexuals.”[11] While having been used by trans activists for some time,[12][13] the term cisgender privilege has recently appeared in the academic literature and is defined there as the “set of unearned advantages that individuals who identify as the gender they were assigned at birth accrue solely due to having a cisgender identity.”[14]

[Anya]

Cis and trans are Latin prefixes.

Trans – on the other/opposite side; across, beyond

Cis – on the same side

Because of their antiquity, these prefixes are in usage across a variety of fields. As has already been pointed out they have precise meaning in chemistry. The terms also have a long history of usage in the language of genetics. In eukaryotic organisms that have paired chromosomes, cis refers to differing genetic variants positioned on the same chromosome of a homologous pair, which means that they are usually inherited together. Trans refers to the variants being on opposite chromosomes, which means they are rarely inherited together.

In gender studies, in line with points made by others, my understanding is that cisgender has crept into the language, appropriately, to distinguish from transgender.

[Anya]

Oh, and one final comment (question really) – how about CistaAwards for those supportive partners who come along the Transformal weekend?

I know it’s totally “off topic”, but what the heck.