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  • Does crossdressing run in the family?

    Posted by Anonymous on 26/12/2008 at 8:40 pm

    Hi Kelly,
    I may not be on the exact same page but very close. I did once many years ago see my father putting on some of mums panty-hose. But even closer to the tree…………… I told my youngest daughter last weekend about Sue. She burst into tears. I thought I had totally destroyed 19 years of harmony with my daughter, with whom I have a very close relationship ie Normal dad daughter thing, nothing funny. I asked her what the problem was, how had I made her feel. She said “completely normal now, now I know where all my weird stuff comes from.” I shall not go into it too deeply but I would hazard a guess that if she was to be born a boy I would have a crossdressing son. So yeh, definately follows on in the genes, maybe some more repressed than others but then that is their problem. They don’t know what a difference it could make to their lives and what a complete person they could become.

    Love
    Sue

    Elizabeth replied 14 years, 1 month ago 1 Member · 22 Replies
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  • Anonymous

    Guest
    26/12/2008 at 10:59 pm

    Hi Kelly,

    I have to say that there is no history of cross dressing in my family tree so having ancestories back to the 2nd fleet who arrived on the Scarbough
    (June 28, 1790 !) I’m the one who “started” the trend is one way to put it !

    Sue > I know not to comment here but that is a great story. Must be told in a full log – good on you girl.

    Cheers,
    Melanie

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    27/12/2008 at 2:36 am

    My Dad often commented how a woman could walk down the street in a man’s clothing but if a man walks the street in women’s clothing he could get arrested. I resemble him physically,perhaps we had even more in common? I also have a nephew who spent many of his young years telling everyone that he was really a girl. I think there’s a pretty strong case for inheriting the propensity to cross-dress at least. Could be the only lottery I’ll ever win! Mmmmm, must get out to the post Xmas sales…

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    27/12/2008 at 1:25 pm

    My dad is a strong fundamentalist Christian who told me that men wanting to dress as women was a sin but used to (and probably still does) wear womens panties. He wasn’t cross dressing but thought they were sexy and comfortable – more power to him! So, crossdresser/transgenderest – not my place to say or judge- maybe not, but still, maybe some genettics at play?

    Plus, who knows how many more that are/were way too in the closet to ever know. Shame really

    hugs
    S

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    27/12/2008 at 8:02 pm

    Hi Kelly

    It will hard to know the truth as because it was such a bad stigmar for past generations that a lot would have hidden the feelings and would never admit it.

    A really good question but.

    So far they seem to think its a hormone change in our mothers before we are born (one popular idea, not here to debate it but), so if this condition is carried by our genes then it could be and also supports that idea too.

    Good luck.

    xxxx

    Kelly Jones

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    28/12/2008 at 3:06 pm

    Hi Kelly

    A good topic and one which has been debated at lenght, a fair bit of researcgh has gone into intersexed conditions and there have been some good studies and results on searchng for the Transexual gene, these are both readily available on the net or on discussion sites. However, when it comes down to the study of why people cross genders not alot of research has been done, nor do i think it ever will be, it has no benefit to anyone outside of our all incompassing circle. I believe that what forms us into the complete people we are is the combination of nature and nurture, as the majority of us are not born with an intersexed condition neither are we wired as a TS but something in our nature be it the wrong release of horrmones in the womb or a genetic code from our past has had an effect. The being that is then released into the western world of stirct bi gender conformity then reacts with the parental infulence which nurtures its up bringing. The parents are only acting upon the strict society code that they have been taught to abide by, so you could speculate that some parents could impose a stricter bi gender influence based on the fact that they themselves had gender issues when they were childern which they surpressed and did not come to terms with as we have managed to do. This in tern makes it very hard to determine genetic links as the people we are have so far been social outcasts, the only clues we can pick up on are inconsipuos comments or over zelous attitudes to people like us from our family members but to determine a genetic link could uncover or cause some major family issues.

    hugz

    Rhi

  • Anonymous

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    28/12/2008 at 11:57 pm

    My dad would occasionally slip into my mums fur coat and wig, it was in the evening when I was due home, he always maintained it was a joke. 😯
    I knew two c.d.’s who’s fathers cross dressed.
    Helen

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    hi just wondering if anyone out there has had another member of there family in the same situtation as you . a cd its it a thing that can be passed down the family tree. is it in the jeans.? i think ive got onather cd in my family tree. but not sure. like to know if anyone else has a relative living the double life?
  • Anonymous

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    30/12/2008 at 1:35 am

    There’s no doubt in my my that cross-dressing runs in families. After all if you accept that genes are involved then by definition it must run in familes though particularly a few decades ago few parents few would admit to the interest. Two examples; Peter Wherett, the motoring correspondent and a cross dresser in his autobiography describes how his father used to cross dress and secondly an extraordinary experience which happened to me. Years ago I was drinking in the Philbeach Hotel with another cross-dresser friend and his son who had had a make over with Anne who at that time ran a dressing service in the hotel walked in to the bar. Neither knew the other dressed. Sadly the son was so embarassed that he fled despite have spent a small fortune on the make over. The story has a happy ending however as both now accept each other.
    Hugs Janet

  • Anonymous

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    30/12/2008 at 6:39 am

    Interesting.. there is a video on youtube (I haven’t viewed it though) of two twin boys that are transexuals. I decided against linking it … google is your friend!!! ❗

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    07/01/2009 at 4:05 pm

    Some very interesting responses, I always thought that our strong feminine side was the result of a hormonal mix during pre natal development and therefore not genetic.

    I am not aware of anyone in my family who CD’s.

    Tash

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    21/06/2009 at 5:30 am

    Speaking from personal experience,i do believe that it is indeed a genetic thing. My father declared to 1st my mother(after 25+yrs of marriage)& then to my sister & I,that he had been crossdressing since childhood! To cut a long story short,my mum divorced my dad when he deciced to take his ‘fetish’ to the next level. My father then went the ‘full hog’ & had a sex change,& has since been living the full life as a woman for almost 10yrs now.
    I do believe that how far one wishes to take their TG doings, is entirely an individual thing though.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    21/06/2009 at 6:01 am

    I just found this thread, a good question too. When I had my first psych. visit, he explained to me that there was increasing evidence that there was a very stong biological link to this type of situation. The coincidental thing here for me is that last year when I came out to my mother, she said “not you too”? She went on to say that many years ago, one of my uncles was nearly onto hormones and everything. He didn’t obviously follow this path but it does suggest that maybe “it does run in the family”.

    The psych. also said that it wasn’t the case with everyone, but it was a strong pattern however with a lot of people, not just the individuals that he sees either.

    Peta A.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    21/06/2009 at 1:10 pm

    I’m not so sure that Trans “runs in the family” so to speak – not gentically at least.

    My take on this issue is that its a random biological effect in the womb – lots on info available on the ‘net about this.

    Perhaps it is the frequency of occurance that is becoming more widely known and thus attempts at linking to a family history? Sure, there may be a propensity of Trans to occur in families, but if the Mother’s womb is where it happens, there would have to be an additional variance in the incidence of Trans because the women (wives/mothers) are random partners in a relationship!

    In other words, the female’s womb may create a Trans fetus irrespective of who the Father is and therefore a generational occurance of Trans on the Paternal side of a family is co-incidental? Have unrelated mothers in previous generations also randomly created Trans fetuses?

    Maybe we should focus on the Mother’s own Family – the children of her sisters – for example? Are Trans people occurring across a family tree, rather than sequentially in each generation?

    Just my non-medical view!

    CLARE.

  • Anonymous

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    22/06/2009 at 1:02 am
    Quote:
    My Dad often commented how a woman could walk down the street in a man’s clothing but if a man walks the street in women’s clothing he could get arrested.

    Actually, when your Dad was young, a woman could be arrested for dressing like a man. It used to be illegal for a woman to appear in public wearing fewer than three items of women’s clothing.

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    there have been some good studies and results on searchng for the Transexual gene

    I would say that the jury is still out on that one – it’ll be a few years at least before we see any real evidence either way.

    The quality of these studies is greatly exaggerated. Often they have too small a sample size to reach any hard conclusions. The most recent one from the Monash clinic in Melbourne had a larger sample size than usual, and was just barely able to reach a statistically significant result – that is, the link they found between genes and transsexuality was so weak as to be almost meaningless, but it is “significant” in the sense that they are 96% sure that the incredibly weak link is not completely a figment of their imagination.

    How weak? Well, about half of the non-transsexuals have these genes. And almost half of the transsexuals don’t have these genes. Since transsexuals are vastly outnumbered, that means that almost everyone who has these “transsexual genes” are not transsexual at all. Having the genes makes you (by my rough calculation) 0.06% more likely to be transsexual.

    They didn’t include any of the numbers in the press release or the article abstract, and even in the full article they didn’t do the maths to show how irrelevant the gene is. It’s better for their funding to just tell the world that they found a “significant link” between this gene and transsexuality.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    02/07/2009 at 10:45 pm

    Hi Kelly,

    Nice to hear that your nephew has found his ‘space’.

    Is ’cause’ important? If it’s genetic we’re looking at a minefield. Aside from the gross chromosomal variations, there are thousands of genes implicated in gender identity.

    If you have the genes, does changing gender become compulsory?

    If you have the genes should you be segregated from ‘normal’ people? (and don’t delude yourself that such an attitude will not be expressed). Should there be compulsory genetic screening before marriage?

    Very recently it has been realised that there are thousands of genes implicated in schizophrenia and bipolar ‘disorder’, and the vast majority will never develop clinical symptoms.

    I don’t want to know if there’s a physical cause to ‘blame’ or ‘excuse’ my gender variance.

    I am who I am and have nothing to be ashamed of. All I’m doing is being myself

    Blessings
    Christina

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    04/07/2009 at 12:25 am

    The problem I see with this area of conjecture is that it is impossible to separate nature and nurture from the mix. You can say that your parent was a CDer or alcoholic or schitzophrenic or whatever, and so am I so it must be genetic. However , you have therefore been raised in an environment with those things prominent in your life and we do learn behaviors from our family. I do think however, that some children are more susceptible to gender influences than others , especially where the messages are confused or contradictory.
    My father once dressed as a cranky old lady in a nighty at my sisters 16 birthday party and burst from the bedroom complaining about the noise. It scared the shit outa me ( I was 5) as I thought it was really some old nutter(It was I suppose!) as he had his hair over his eyes. Not really something to emulate!

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