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Going oversea on holiday – To dress or not?
Hello all
I’ve plan to go on a holiday to Japan. through the internet I have made friends with 3 or 4 Tgirls in Tokyo more from other parts of Japan. One of them who helps run a bar for japanese Tgirls just out side Tokyo had I can get to with no problem. I asked if it was O.K. for a westener to go and yes was the reply.Now is it a good idea too go? I check with other girls that the bar is real and my Japanese friend works there(she works most nights).
Next do I go as Penny or change there, my japanese is poor but I can get around most subjects when needed.We have chatted about going to the bar, but went the subject of going as Penny all dress up was made, I got no answer about it. She wote to me that the bar was for Tgirls. We still write to each other and get on.
Penny
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Quote:Hello all
I’ve plan to go on a holiday to Japan.
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Now is it a good idea too go?What an opportunity! Sounds like a good idea.
Quote:Next do I go as Penny or change there,I have no idea about their protocols there. Maybe dress there first time if you can’t get a clear answer. Travelling enfemme in a foreign country could be a little risky. You don’t know their customs/rules, etc.
Christine.
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Quote:Hello all
I’ve plan to go on a holiday to Japan. Now is it a good idea too go?
Next do I go as Penny or change there, my japanese is poor but I can get around most subjects when needed.
We have chatted about going to the bar, but went the subject of going as Penny all dress up was made, I got no answer about it. She wote to me that the bar was for Tgirls. We still write to each other and get on.
PennyFirst question. Did you get an answer to your question? About going as Penny I mean.
Second, when you say, do I go as Penny, do you mean travelling from Australia to Japan as Penny? Or from the hotel there?
If you mean travelling from here do you have a passport that supports your femme identity? If the answers to these questions are yes then go for it! What a thrill that would be.
Helen -
Yes Christine to go to Japan is best part of the holiday but dressing up there is a little frightening for me.
And Helen if my passpost was under Penny I would just gone. -
Quote:Next do I go as Penny or change there,
And Helen if my passport was under Penny I would just go.
PennySorry, I was responding to your comment, “Do I go as Penny”, which read like you were thinking of flying there as Penny.
Hope you go and enjoy yourself,
**hugs**
Helen -
Helen doesn’t think that my shortness is from being smart but from not having time. As I was write that reply my partner was opening the front door and I press submit just so I world get a reply back to this forum.
It is same time hard to find the window of time to get on the web, so I hope that is one mistake can be over looked.
Penny -
I can add a little from experience in Tokyo and a surrounding district called Makuhari (about 50-80 kms out).
First: I’ll assume that you do not have femme travelling documentation – i.e., passport / visa etc. Although I did fly (domestic within USA) pre911, I haven’t contemplated that since 911. I would certainly not contemplate travelling internationally en-femme unless your doc matches all the way. These days your ticket must must EXACTLY your documented identity. (There is a potential or perceived security risk due to your “disguise”) Don’t bring unnecessary trouble. Also, if you think of your house to hotel travel time you will need a makeover or three enroute. Probably more hassle than the enjoyment/satisfaction could warrant.Now, within Tokyo it’s a different manner. I do not know where you are staying or the location of yor destination. I’m 184cm, so I’m tall by Japanese standards in any case. As a girl in Japan , I am VERY tall. (in the USA, I’m only in the taller than average group). You wil first be identified as a Westerner and then (hopefully) as a girl. The average Japanese person will (at worst) most likely treat you as a different looking girl (i.e., some Westerner) rather than as a boy dressed as a girl. I never had any trouble in CBD, or mainstream shopping areas etc. I ‘m non-smoker and only light social drinker – so I don’t have much nightclub experience. But, Tokyo is relatively safe city. You would certainly be as safe or safer in more parts of Tokyo than in many parts of Sydney.
Time permitting – my suggestion is to arrange to meet your friend when she has some time off. If she is concerned about coming to your hotel room (I certainly would not visit you there for the first meeting if I was her), she may meet you in the hotel coffee shop or in a local shopping complex. Else make some local arrangments. If the bar is near to a mainstream location, consider tryting to meet there and for her to accompany you if you are unsure of the area.
Cross-dressing in Tokyo is not a problem. Although, Japanese teenagers and younger office workers dress in some way out gear, I’d always take my first steps in something appropriate for your age and build. You can go way out if that is your scene, once you have previewed the scene. The further you go away from mainstream areas then safety can become an issue (as anywhere). You may find that the bar is frequented by westerners in a similar situation in which case you may feel more comfortable.
One other note. Some restrooms in Japan are attended. Be ready with small change for a posted fee or tip. Language issues can be hard enough without “complications”. But, I didn’t have trouble in that area, either.
Good luck and enjoy . . . If your schedule allows, pre-book an English language tour – local or distant (e.g. Fuji – typically one way by bus and the other by high speed rail) and go en-femme. There are usually many Europeans and Americans on these tours of all different shapes, sizes etc and I think that yu would enjoy that as much as a bar-scene. It will give you more confiedence. (I guess the preceding assumes that you are reasonably comfortably in mainstream OZ as a girl . . .)
Briony -
Thank you Briony for all your good advice, I have been to Japan before but a lot of my time was in Kyoto and only a day trip to Tokyo. So this time having 2 weeks in Japan just for me.
Being post 911 just to get on a plane is hand enough, with getting the airport 4 hours and all the checks before you can board. So too travel as myself will be fine.
For Tokyo I will be staying at a ryokan (Japanese inn) 3 nights just to get the feel of place. But most of the time I am at small hotel chain called The Toyoko Inn which I have gone to before. I know that some Japanese can get dressed up in the oddest things so I will be safe in my little black dress and as you say I’ll be a different looking girl. Standing around 170cm I think that is average but just to go out and shop like a real will be a great frill. I have plan half of my time just if things go well I can enjoy the moment.
For my Japanese girl friend I found out to day that she not a worker in a bar! She is the owner of the bar. And has made it clear that going to the bar already dressed is fine with her. So the big problem now is what to wear?
I hope not just to see Mt Fuji but to climb it if my times work out but not heels. So thank you again for all your kind words..
Penny.
