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  • Headless pics or fakes?

    Posted by Anonymous on 09/01/2006 at 4:34 am

    Browsing through quite a few groups and ‘clubs’ over the years one thing I come across now and again is either the headless shot, (somone who is too shy to show their faces) or the ones that have their heads pasted onto to some real girls body. I was wondering what members thought of these practices. I can understand people being shy I have a member on my group who begged to join as she wanted to have some sort of contact but couldn’t supply a pic with her face in it. But the ones who try to pretend the ‘cut and paste photo’ is really theselves makes me think about cheating. Don’t get me wrong, I have done it myself, before I was able to have space and time to be able to have shots of myself taken properly. But actualy presenting these as real pictures of themselves strikes me as cheating. What do others think?

    Anonymous replied 19 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 30 Replies
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  • Anonymous

    Guest
    09/01/2006 at 4:48 am

    Hi Helen. I have read your view on photo’s and agree that it can look fake but also saying that I can see where other girls are coming from by not putting their face shot on the net. Firstly some of these girls are in hi profile positions like myself and would not want to be identified. I know you need to be a member to even be on this site, but as you will be aware there are many that might just join up for a look or maybe curious. The second reason there might be some girls that are shy to show there face as they may have a beard. Please dont think I am against putting faces to the names, because I would also like to see who is who on the profiles, but also see it for the reasons I have mentioned. One more thing, when I build up the courage I will also put my face to the name….Yesss I am also shy and new to this site, but this was a huge effort on my part to even come this far. I look forward to seeing / reading more & more on here as it has helped me so much understanding issues that we all might have from day to day living as a CD. Would love to chat more Helen, but Im at work so I better do some, Take Care c u soon

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    09/01/2006 at 7:50 pm

    I never show a photo at all and its nothing to do with being shy etc. It is simply because I dont think what I look like should have any influence on what people think of me or how they treat me. Besides as I am fulltime I think plastering my pics about the net would be counter productive, Similarily I wonder how many would consider posting pictures of how you present most of the time, ie: drab mode.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    09/01/2006 at 10:14 pm

    Well, two replies and both equally valid. With Tania’s reply I detected a certain degree of defensiveness. Sorry hon, I wasn’t trying to put anyone on the spot. I was just wondering what other members opionions were.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    09/01/2006 at 10:38 pm

    Sorry Helen :) Upon reflection you are correct :) My only defence is that I just get so sick of everyone wanting a pic before they let me into this or that :( IHave they not considered how easy it would be for me to just copy one from somewhere on the web instead of maintaining my integrety. Anyway doesnt excuse me darl so please accept my apologies :) :) Tania xxx

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    09/01/2006 at 11:21 pm

    Helen – Headless shots in my book lack that artistic touch. There are plenty of ways of hiding ones face, lighting effects, a pose with head away from camera etc etc and they look a lot better. I can understand why many girls do not want to show their faces – the world we live in is not exactly 100% tolerant outside its hetrosexual boundaries. Also with regard to Tania’s comments re ppl asking for a picture – I never meet anyone unless I have seen a picture of them first and it has got nothing to do with checking whether they have two heads or not. It is a safety thing – I like to see who I am about to meet (and then it is always in a public place). It is all about honesty and in the jungle that is the Net, a picture is a small step towards honesty.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    09/01/2006 at 11:30 pm

    Hi Helen, Tania, Julie. This has been an intresting topic for conversation. With all responses being valid points. If I was to meet some one, I would do the exchange of emails, get to know the girl through emails with the possibility of exchanging photo’s then. I agree with Julie, I would like to see someone first before meeting them. Our security is paramount, and as said, there are a lot of society that do not accept us for whom we are, so we do have to look after our safety. I would dearly love society to get over it, and to look after their own lifes and stay out of ours and we will all be happy. But as you all know it’s not that easy. Anyway I love reading everyone’s view, and love reading the forums. Im learning a great deal. Thank you all.
    Cheers xox

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    09/01/2006 at 11:33 pm

    LOL Julie :) Love your comment about headless shots right along side your own :) I would add that you should always meet people in a very public place for safety reasons :) I dont have that photo problem with the people I am likely to be meeting because most of them would know me or be able to ask someone that does know me :) Also I heard that a lot of girls with pics in their profiles get bothered by chasers and the like. Funnily enough my photoless profile has not had a similar problem ever :)

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    10/01/2006 at 3:29 am

    I thought the pic of my well rounded thigh illustrates my point of a sensual alternative to a headless pic. That shot BTW is the thumbnail on my profile which has other pix of all of me – which goes to show that while at times I may be reclusive I am also prepared to offer a bit of head. 😉

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    10/01/2006 at 5:13 am

    Hi Helen, girls………..nice topic helen, for me it doesn’t matter really if a person has a photo or not, headless or otherwise, I try to treat everyone in a friendly manner….cut and paste pics or pics of other people that a person pretends is theirs is not very nice, but I will just ignore them.
    Having said all that its much nicer to meet people face to face, as long as its done safely. On NYE I met Rachael who contacted me through Tranny radio, it was her first time out, just because she has no photo on her profile doesn’t mean anything ( although it can help) , she is a lovely person…..we and a few others had a great night at the glasshouse
    hugs…..Nikki

  • Brenda

    Member
    10/01/2006 at 10:53 am

    It has bothered me at many times about the headless shots, moreso those of magazine models than tranny radio ladies.
    What annoys me more is those of us who place lingerie shots instead of outerclothing shots for our pictures, some are what I would deem almost pornographic 😳 How many real women does one see in public dressed like them?

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    10/01/2006 at 12:07 pm

    hi Brenda…. what you say is true, alhough we are made up a very big group of people with varing interests. some are women down to their soul, others like the feel of the colthes, still others get a sexual kick from dressing, there is probably a different reason for each one of us. so how we might protray ourselves or see ourselves in a pic is ok. At keast you may find fiends out there who are on you wave lenght, and ignore those who don’t
    Nikki

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    11/01/2006 at 1:23 am

    Hi, no appologies necesary hon, I can see your point, and I was asking a question that might have stirred up some possums, (which I have to admit I enjoy doing). But, to continue mangling metaphors) if you stir the pot expect some splash back. So if I can’t take the heat .etc. Stoppit dammit!!!
    Thanks to all for their views.
    Helen

    Quote:
    Sorry Helen :) Upon reflection you are correct :) My only defence is that I just get so sick of everyone wanting a pic before they let me into this or that :( IHave they not considered how easy it would be for me to just copy one from somewhere on the web instead of maintaining my integrety. Anyway doesnt excuse me darl so please accept my apologies :) :) Tania xxx
  • Anonymous

    Guest
    11/01/2006 at 11:40 am

    I’ve only recently started dressing up and only in lingerie after I bought my very first outfit. At age 61 that took some doing, I can tell you!.

    I joined TgR a month or so ago and after I managed to take a few amateurish photos I posted one on my profile on the left.

    Shock, horror! It is a headless black bra shot! Cringe…

    But let me explain. I’m definitely in the closet both for my family and professionally. I have a high managerial and consulting position and am also very active in my local community.

    I also look very male, I have a beard and moustache and have no other female clothes apart from the now two lingerie outfits – I got a white set last weekend. Wow! At BnT at Homebush but that’s another story.

    My resolutions (and in line with some of the posts) are:

    – to buy a nice blouse at some stage when I get up the nerve and work out what/where to buy…help…

    – to take and post some more artistic photos (I agree Tanya) to show myself in a more attractive light (but still in lingerie, I’m afraid and still no head. Oh well, be thankful!)

    Love to all. Jan

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    11/01/2006 at 9:36 pm

    Hi Girls,
    Jan you don’t need to apologise for lingerie shots. I think your posting highlights many of the reasons people don’t post with their head showing. I crossdressed for many years without going the full makeup & wig bit. Sometimes I just wore lingerie, sometimes skirt and top as well. It is only last year that I started crossdressing and assuming the feminine role as best I can. So I have a mix of pics of me with & without head, some in lingerie (I don’t have a problem with lingerie shots: I like lingerie), some with full makeup & wig. Even with makeup etc it was some time before I felt that I could do it well enough to post head pics. I agree that there are many different reasons people join tranny radio. We all share some aspect of cd/ts, but our practices stretch from being just into lingerie to girls that have fully transitioned. I wouldn’t like to see the situation arise where people discriminated against others based on their degree of femme transition. We are all here because we share a connection with being female in some way, some completely, some just a bit. I’m about 50/50. So again I don’t think we need to start aplogising for who or where we are at any particular moment.
    Gwen

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    11/01/2006 at 11:50 pm

    I have no issue with any lady who does not want to show their face in a picture transmitted over the internet. I also have no issue with any lady who wishes to show seductive pictures of themselves in lingerie,latex,denim,or a wheat sack with holes cut in it. The ones I have issue with are the ones who have no picture or any detail of themselves whatsoever on their id…they are the ones I am suspicious of because as we all know ladies the sharks and trolls are out there just waiting to get their jollies off.
    Regardless of our own personal domestic situations or our station in life in the main I believe many of our sisters do not wish to paste face shots of themselves up on sites for fear of humiliation, not necessarily from others but from themselves. As in every other field of popular culture the ‘ideal’ feminine image always appears unattainable. Wives/girlfriends/female friends are constantly comparing themselves with a Jennifer Aniston or Britney Spears or a Rene Russo quite unrealistically – how much better would anyone look with a few million dollars in the bank,a personal stylist, a personal fitness trainer,flattering camera trickery and (wouldn’t this be wonderful!) body doubles for those more intimate times. We are no different. None of us started out wearing impeccable makeup and styled by Versace..what do the chinese say? The journey of 1000 miles begins with one step then another.
    For many years I lived out my cd life as a headless ‘goddess’ in webcam chatrooms. I knew all the tricks to make me appear 10 years younger,in peak physical condition, and the embodiment of desire. Noone ever saw my face above a little bit of chin. One night though, empowered by my seemingly bullet-proof status and possibly a considerable amount of alcohol, I decided to throw on some makeup and let myself be seen full face. What a disaster! With limited idea about the tricks of makeup I was met with either howls of derision or stoney silence. Comments such as ‘ hey you look like a guy’ (despite the fact this was a site for the transgendered after all) crushed me and my feminine confidence completely.Well momentarily anyhow.
    What planet was I living on? Of course I was a guy in a dress. It was at that point I resolved to learn about makeup and styling..to stop dressing like a truckstop hooker on the internet and to start getting out into the real world and to stop hiding in the shadows. Meeting Wendy when she came over for a visit from NSW was inspiring and my ‘look’ is constantly being reviewed as I meet more and more friends who share our interests.
    I still look like a guy in a dress but the reality is that I am never tumbled – my feminine appearance has got to the stage whereby there is no point of reference between Emma and ‘the guy’. The last time I went out clubbing I stood beside the dancefloor for a while next to my nephew (he even asked me for a light for his cigarette at one stage) and he did not pick me. I have walked up Gouger St here in Adelaide and been heckled (in good spirits I should add) by men I know professionally. If you believe it so will everyone else.
    I know my view on developing the feminine ‘you’ will not be shared by everyone and that’s fine, I just thought I’d share my experience with those still trying to get their head around this cd thing and how they best present them selves to the world. Fail to prepare,prepare to fail. Don’t be fragile if you believe in your heart of hearts that you just can’t possibly show your face ever. If that’s as far as you want to take it then that’s ok too but don’t die not knowing.Think about it, ask around (that is after all a primary function of this site) and have a go. If you’re still not happy with showing your face then get that lingerie on girlfriend and show us what you’ve got ;)
    A final word. If, at the end of the day, you think that in womens clothing you look like the Dowager Empress of Russia or your maiden aunty, then why not play up that angle? Buy a stunning ballgown,whack on a Louis XVIth wig, cover yourself in big bling and a beauty spot. Noone said you can’t have any fun did they?

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