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    Posted by Anonymous on 29/03/2009 at 4:31 am

    Hi Girls !
    I have read a lot about female hormones for transitioning and or improving ones shape to be more femme- both here and other on sites in conversations etc .
    Ironically I have to take testosterone ! Yes Id like to be a girl, or more girlly and the idea of going on estrogen in the past has crossed my mind more than . Ironically I find my T is very low without T blocking agents.I have Diabetes type 2 and recent publications have indicated that many males with type 2 have low levels of Total and ” Free ” testosterone .In fact the figure is put at 60 % of males with type 2 having low T levels.This may sound like Nirvana for girls comtemplating HRT and if you have low T levels and want to do HRT with female hormones my advice is go ahead ! But for those who dont want HRT but want to get healthier It SEEMS essential to builld up T levels with testosterone injections, Gels or patches. Im told by my endo that such low t levels lead to effects of lethargy, depression, erectile dis function and cardiac problems.It seems that the body needs certain levels of hormones to be healthy – and for those transitioning its estrogen and progesterone while T production is stopped by blocking agents.For ordinary males its T …
    What this means is that for those of us who have diabetes 2 ( and to a lesser extent type 1 ) you could be suffering from hormone deficiency and hence be running a risk of the effects I listed .I got a really big shock when my levels were tested and found to be so low – and this was well before the symptoms of diabetes appeared – like 2 yrs before !
    I have read variuos articles on the relationship between low T levels and Diabetes and it seems to be a fairly recent revelation that there is a link between the two . Some say that T levels drop, then this brings on diabetes , Others say the opposite occurs – diabetes occurs then T levels drop .Either way its not a good ride to be on !
    As i said I am taking testosterone and two compounds to counter two possible side effects – boob formation and male pattern baldness .it all adds up to a bad scenario ! The boobs may not be that undesirable ,but hair loss ?
    So I would urge other girls to have their T levels done and if low, talk to a good doc about hrt with T or Hrt with estrogen and progesterone .If one of the theories is correct you may be saving yourself from developing dibetes .Either way its not a good thing to live with such a condition untreated.Sadly I found out about this link between T levels and diabetes by sheer accident when I i received a regular health bullletin from a well known clinic and it had mention of the link.Well before this ,as I said I had a test for t levels but it was to placate the doc who was treating some injuries I had and said males that have low t levels recover slowly from sports injury and have the lethargy , depression etc I listed above. Sadly when I started taking T supplementation way back then I was quickly talked out of it by well meaning GP friends who predicted all sorts of dire effects – ugh !!!
    Blessings
    Suzz

    Elizabeth replied 14 years, 6 months ago 1 Member · 5 Replies
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  • Anonymous

    Guest
    31/03/2009 at 8:24 pm

    Hi Suzzanne

    I have been told by my doctor that I am at risk for type 2 diabetes, but I shudder at the idea of taking testosterone. I would happily take estrogen etc, but I have liver trouble and I’d worry about the effect on my liver. This (plus medication for it) has already given me ‘gynecomastia’ (basically, boobs) which I am quite happy about. :)
    I try to get plenty of exercise, but I’m lazy (and also love chocolate!).

    Cheers

    Robbie

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    01/04/2009 at 7:24 am

    Hi Robbie
    Well if you are at risk for type 2 it probably means your body weight is up and you have abdominal fat – ?
    Most doctors warn people with obesity of the risk of diabetes 2 .If this is the case please do yourself a real favour , diet and exercise really well as the complications of th condition are frightening ! My case seems to be one of a advanced condition, in that I have had to start on insulin as pills diet and exercise were not enough to control it .It seems that getting people who are close to having the disease to go on anti diabetic medication is a method being adopted by mor edoctors …
    Anyway good luck with it , I sincerely hope you do not develop type 2 …

    Hugs
    Suzz

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    01/04/2009 at 10:14 am

    Hi Suzz

    Thanks for your concern.

    Yes I am rather chubby & overweight these days. I try to walk or ride my bicycle everywhere (I have a licence but no car) but I seem to eat too much as well. It does seem to keep my blood sugar down, so long as I keep at it. Of course, if it’s pouring … 

    I’m also a vegetarian — do you know if that helps or hinders? (Lots of estrogen in soybeans, BTW!)

    Best of luck with your own condition

    Robbie

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    18/08/2011 at 1:08 am

    Hi Sue and all those with diabetes II.

    A few years ago I was worried about my risk as my mother had it and then I saw an the ABC show Catalyst (2003) and they where taking about omega 3 and omega 6 influencing metabolism .

    Reading between the lines or virtually what they said was that too much omega 6 compared to omega 3 made it harder for insulin to get though the cell walls .

    hang on isn’t that insulin resistance or diabetes type 2.

    The main problem is we are drowning in omega 6, it is in excessive amounts in all the main or cheaper cooking oils, especially ones used by fast food industry while omega 3 is in very low quantity in most foods.

    This said to me get more omega 3 so after a bit of research I decided on flaxseed oil, 4 teaspoons per day. Cured hayfever in a bit over a month.

    Cholesterol down, blood sugar dropped, energy up, hay fever gone and BO down.

    Could you try flaxseed oil and please message me if it works you.

    Vicki

  • Elizabeth

    Member
    18/08/2011 at 7:26 pm

    Hi all you girls with type 2 diabetes or early onset diabetes. Very interesting comments on the relationship between testosterone levels and diabetes 2. I’ve never had a T level test but I do have diabetes 2 and it’s a bugger, the side effects that is. I thought ageing was bringing on the boob growth although I knew that even without a test that my T levels were low, it was a natural process and there is no doubt that it is. The opposite is true for women, hence, sometimes the hairy top lip and the thining hair.
    Testosterone or no testosterone, avoid D2 at all costs. The worst side effect I have found is the inability to wear heels and any other gorgeous and dainty footwear (because of foot ulcers, the associated and chronic horrendous pain). After that it’s downhill all the way.

    Hugs to all,

    Liz