microgynon / Ethinylestradiol – is it safe?

[Anonymous]

Hi all
Well, after being taken off microgynon and put on progynova I found I was going backwards. After giving it some time to make sure I just needed to get used to the new medication, I went back to the Dr. Sure enough, my T was through the roof. Bugger….

Due to various circumstances, I couldn’t see my GP, but got another Dr who didn’t know much about TS issues but had consulted a 3rd Dr at the practice who does… so, this Dr told me he was unaware of the research my GP was citing and that he couldn’t see any heightened risks for me as, while there is a link between oestrogen and cancer, it occurs in women who are exposed to it since puberty. I have a way to go before I might slip into a risk category, by this logic anyway.

Rather than add AA’s, I went back to what I know works – microgynon. I’ll see my GP in July and see what happens then

cheers
S

[Catherine]

Hi Sarah,

Hope you are feeling well throughout this ordeal. Is your GP fully conversant with TG matters?

If your still struggling with medications, it may make a difference if you were to seek an Endronilogist who understands these matters, in better detail.

Hope it works out for you. Be safe, well and happy.
Lotsa huggs
Catherine

[Anonymous]

My GG partner took Microgynon as a contraceptive for 20 solid years, no side effects, no blood clotting. this is all the information she can supply. Wishing you well in sorting your meds out.

[Anonymous]

Any estrogen based medication will increase the risk of estrogen responsive breast cancer. However I agree with Lisa, I am unaware of any research that looks at breast cancer rates in natal males taking estrogen hormones (for whatever reason). I would suggest however that it would be sensible to inform your doctor if there is anyone in your family who has had an estrogen responsive breast tumour (Most BC’s for the last 5yrs + should have been checked to see if they are what is called estrogen responsive i.e. they have a high incidence of estrogen receptors).

As a general rule, Injectables and Transdermals are safer than oral forms of estrogen. Curiously not only do they have less liver toxicity but they appear to have a lower incidence of clot formation.

[Anonymous]

An interesting article to help inform the debate on The Conversation:
Monday’s medical myth: the pill increases your risk of cancer

https://theconversation.edu.au/mondays-medical-myth-the-pill-increases-your-risk-of-cancer-6931

Doesn’t mention clotting

Cheers

[JeniSkunk]

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An interesting article to help inform the debate on The Conversation: Monday’s medical myth: the pill increases your risk of cancer
https://theconversation.edu.au/mondays-medical-myth-the-pill-increases-your-risk-of-cancer-6931
Doesn’t mention clotting

Sarah, that article is only looking at oral contraceptives.
It completely fails to discuss cancer rates in natal women taking pill form HRT. Unless I am mistaken, it would be studies and discussions of this, rather than oral contraceptives, which would be more relevant to the TG community.

Jenifur Charne

[Lisa_W]

I am sorry Jennifur but you are wrong. The dose of hormones in trangendered people taking HRT is similar to or higher than natal women on the “the pill”.

The HRT dose for post menopausal women is a lot lower. You cannot compare a post menopausal woman on HRT with a transgendered person on HRT. The transgendered person is like the teenage girl who has just commenced her post pubertal life with cyclically increased oestrogen & progesterone levels. The TG “girl” is in fact having a second puberty (if you like) but this time with female hormones.

The article is headed, “the pill increases your risk of cancer”. Sarah as far as I am aware, blot clots are not a cancer. There are many other posts that discuss the total risks of Microgynon & other forms of “the pill” not just cancer risks.

[Anonymous]

Hi
Thanks Lisa. You are right on there, blood clots are indeed not cancer! They are though a commonly cited health risk associated with this medication amongst trans* folk.

You are aso right; there are lots of posts that discuss the total risks of Mycrogynon. There’s this one, for example:
http://forum.tgr.net.au/cms/forum/F176/3414-414&highlight=

Thanks again

cheers
Sarah

[JeniSkunk]

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I am sorry Jennifur but you are wrong. The dose of hormones in trangendered people taking HRT is similar to or higher than natal women on the “the pill”.
The HRT dose for post menopausal women is a lot lower.

Thanks for correcting me on the hormones dosage levels, Lisa

Jenifur Charne