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  • Anonymous

    Guest
    14/04/2011 at 12:08 am

    Hi all,
    Im on a low dose of estrogen – like one Pill every two days Still I have noticed the changes I wanted that is : enlarged sensitive nipples ,softer skin and some of that wonderful calmness other girls report ! My reason for taking such a low dose is two fold – I don’t want to transition at present but I do like so much the changes Ive experienced .I have to have regular shots of long acting testosterone as my body produces none .In the early stages of this male HRT I developed small man boobs ,(well enlarged nipples +) that, while they hurt a bit and were sensitive,gave me a wonderful erotic feeling when stroked. About 12 months ago these disappeared as , for some reason, the slight estrogen excess produced by the T reduced to under normal for a male … So now I have E low doses via the pill and have been able to get E levels up to more than normal for a male .Same with progesterone levels . Ive been asked why not go to E only and the answer is that we all need a predominant hormone in our bodies and to stop T injections would undoubtably reduce T levels, but E ingestion would have to go way up and Im not ready for that yet.
    Mind you IF i decide to transit ion then I wont have to take any T suppressants …

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    28/04/2011 at 8:40 am

    Well I’ve popped back into this thread because I do now seem to be experiencing something which is, whilst not physical, reasonably clear cut in how I experience it. First off, I have to say that I’m asking this to determine if it’s hormones at work, middle age or just my own particular genes coming to a certain time in their life. I’m not convinced HRT is responsible.

    Over the last week or so I have been experiencing a noticeable enhancement of my peripheral vision, i.e. I am more aware of a greater width of what I see around me. I feel like I am living in an Imax cinema sometimes, especially on the odd occasion when this comes with an added sense of 3D as well.

    I should point out that I have also been undergoing Cognitive Behaviour Therapy which involves a few different meditation like tasks and this could be part or all of the reason for it. If anyone else has experienced something similar, I’d love to hear about it.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    29/04/2011 at 1:32 am

    After having been on 100 microgarm oestregen patches for about 6 weeks, physically I have noticed my nipples have become plumper, my memory is improving for events in the past and my partner says my sense of smell has increased dramatically.
    Mentally I feel more feminine than I did before, my body movements and stance plus a whole list of other stuff which is probably all in my mind and not real, but feels cool.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    24/06/2011 at 10:37 am

    Hi,
    I have been telling everyone for years and now it is all coming out

    Phthalates are one of the groups of “gender-bending” chemicals causing males of all species to become more female. These chemicals have disrupted the endocrine systems of wildlife, causing testicular cancer, genital deformations, low sperm counts and infertility in a number of species, including polar bears, deer, whales and otters, just to name a few.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/24/europe-bans-penis-shrinking-chemical-america-does-not.aspx

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    25/06/2011 at 4:21 am

    I have been reflecting recently on the development of one’s brain. If one accepts that the sexual differentiation of the brain occurs in the second half of pregnancy whereas the sexing of the body occurs in the first 12 weeks and the brain is set either female or male prior to birth.(See Swabb et al). Then in the case of a MtF transsexual the body is male and the brain is female. So when we go through puberty our female brain is usually saturated primarily with testosterone when in fact it was expecting Oestrogen. I suspect that this is why puberty was so confusing for me and I expect many of us.

    So move forward to when we decide to transition later in life. We remove the testosterone and introduce high levels of Oestrogen. What does this do to the brain? I agree with most of the comments about becoming calmer, more emotional and loosing some of the spacial and mathematic based capabilities. However, how long does it take the brain to reverse the physical effects of testosterone and for the brain to firstly return to a physical state similar to how it was when it was born and then for the Oestrogen to have the further effects similar to puberty for a natal girl. In my case the impacts of high levels of hormones have been and continue to be progressive.

    If you have followed me so far, then my observation is that for the first 2 years of hormones and 8 months post SRS the changes have been as many have stated but I now find that my real self and my real personal desires, interests and life goals are beginning to dominate my thoughts and are less about living life as a woman, which is still extremely important and paramount!. These are quite different to simply being my true feminine self rather it seems that as my brain becomes more feminised physically I am becoming freer to be more than just simply a female version rather I am increasingly becoming a more real person, the person I was meant to be!

    The initial trigger for these thoughts was a discussion on the use of Puberty Blockers and the proposition that denying a child puberty would lead to underdevelopment of the brain and other issues that should be avoided at all cost. When I responded that in the case of a transsexual child the puberty that they would experience was exactly the opposite that their brain was expecting and I felt that the consequences of this were significant let alone the damaging impacts on secondary sex characteristics. The argument sort of boiled down to “we all need to go through puberty even if it is not the puberty we should be having.”

    If anyone can point me to research on this I would be most grateful.

    Cheers

    Jade

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    25/06/2011 at 8:08 am

    Slightly off topic but I wonder what the new research on brain plasticity and the ability for brains to set new pathways, will bring to the study of gender.

    Personally I think that it may be a big factor in the establishment of gender diverse traits in the growing brain. What the affects of hormones are on this
    brain change phenomena is yet to be determined.

  • Lisa_W

    Member
    28/06/2011 at 4:55 am

    Again slightly off topic but related to the effects of oestrogen on the brain.

    A question for those who have been on HRT for a long time. When do you stop dreaming in male mode & dream about yourself as a female?

    I have never seen anything written about this topic. I know that I still dream in male mode after over 2 years of HRT.

    What are other peoples experiences?

    Lisa

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    28/06/2011 at 5:27 am

    Hi Lisa,
    I’m not sure you ever do completely. I suspect the longer you experience your new gender the more your dreams will align themselves. I still have dreams with me as male and that’s after four years. I also have dreams with my first wife in them and that’s 16 years ago. I guess we are always going to be ‘blessed’ with an interesting dream life :-)
    Gwen

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    28/06/2011 at 8:20 am

    Hi,

    Meds & effects depending on type dose rate & the person too many difference’s.

    For me over 6 years coming up 7 on meds,

    How do i think. since i did not change from male to female or female to male , i really have no idear, i pretty much think the same as i did most of my life 53 out of allmost 64 years , a mix of both or both at the same time,

    Of cause that raise’s the ? what’s it like to think as a male or female / woman. or to try & seperate that,

    More so because i could not relats to men. what this ? does is back me in to a corner . I know im more at home with women & do relate with them tho i miss out a little ether way .

    I thought i was swinging some each way at times & even that does not really work. this is about my feeling’s, Emotions , my whole being as a person . not about male or female,

    tho the lovely part detail, thing ,is i express my self in such a neat way that gives me a peace about my self , being content & just where i should have been allowed to be through out my life,

    that of cause was not to be till 14 years ago. & not so much about male or female, & as i look at both sides to my self has helpedi
    & how i grow as a person . So meds did not change me in the way you mean.

    & as a interesting point friends watch me while im talking with others & say they see in me a woman proper. & how i project my self ,

    There are little things i do while talking my body langage is very telling ,
    & that shows , For me its so natarul & free. seeing is the only way to understand words dont conveay what im trying to say.my body does,

    …noeleena…

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    28/06/2011 at 1:17 pm

    Given that dreaming has just had a mention I’ll tell of my experience. After 14 months on HRT my dreams have been largely gender neutral. My dreams tend to be observing rather than participating (ah! the voyeur in me is outed!) so unawareness of gender may be a reflection of that as much as a genuine neutrality. It is only in the last week that I have had a dream where I was definitely female; it was easy to remember because in the dream I was concerned about what clothes I should be wearing!!

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