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Travelling Enfemme
Posted by Anonymous on 06/01/2005 at 11:39 amLooking for advice on the subject of flying. Living In melbourne I take the opportunity to travel up to Sydney from time to time for a girlie weekend. I would like to fly enfemme but am not sure how this is viewed by the airlines today. That is security concerns, photo ID etc.. so wondered if anyone out there has flown enfemme and can offer advice. Did you contact the airline prior to flying or just turn up on the day etc….
Elizabeth replied 12 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 12 Replies -
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Guest07/01/2005 at 2:21 amAngela
Not sure how well set up you are but the law requires you to travel in your name, and airlines require photo ID in that name. So unless you have changed your name by deed poll I dont think the airlines will let you fly. Unless to dress but remove wigs etc to check in, I imagine that would be a tad uncomfortable and embarrasing
Sammy
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Anonymous
Guest07/01/2005 at 8:54 amUnless you check with the airline first, I would not recommend it. Give the airline a call and explain your situation and circumstances. They may accept or reject your request. But it is a risk I would rather not take myself. Just pack your goodies in your suitcase and change when you get to your accomodation. It is always the safest bet. And if after your bags have been x-rayed, and the airport staff pull you aside to question the contents, just tell them it is personal and not something that is open for discussion. Or you could tell them you are a professional DQ. That will get them thinking and have you laughing all the way to your destination. LOL!
Seriously though, if you are a member of say the Seahorse Society or Chameleon which provides you with a membership card, then maybe the airlines will allow it. But however with the way airport security is these days, and the fact that in the recent past terrorists have tried to travel disguised as women, I would strongly avoid it.
Let us know how you go either way and whether or not the airlines do/do not help. It would be good for us all to know. Take great care and enjoy your holiday.
Best wishes
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Guest08/01/2005 at 2:55 amHi everyone,
I have just flown to melbourne as Alicia from sydney, they did ask for photo ID but as I don’t have a drivers license as Alicia I said so & offerred my new medicare card & bank card which were in my new name.
It wasn’t a problem.
2 years ago I flew to Brisbane as Alicia, but hadn’t changed my name, I was sked for photo Id & handed over my drivers license in my male name & smiled * said “No problem, but it’s not going to look like this”
The steward looked at it & the name said “have a gr8 flight MAAM!”
if you are honest & comfortable about who you are, no one cares.
Hope this helps.
Hugs!!
Alicia(Allie) Roberts
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Anonymous
Guest08/01/2005 at 4:07 amTravelling enfemme using your male ID shouldnt be a problem. The law does state that you cannot be discriminated against. You cannot be denied any service because of who you are.
Although from my personal position I do not have a problem,because I live and work fulltime. I have changed my name legally. Also it helps placing my Police ID on the counter at Virgin arilines.
BUT be warned travelling overseas enfemme. In the states especially there has been a security warning for some months about terrorists dressing as females to pass through security checks at airports. So the security services are on the lookout………Travel wisely,safely and above all have fun…………
hugz
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Guest18/11/2005 at 6:18 pmHi girls, Just reading up on this subject as it is late and i can not sleep. I travelled to Melb from Perth in June this year as Jessica. Having not started hormones all i had done was grow my hair and get it fem styled. It really isnt an issue if youyr at ease in public. I travelled virgin going over. I rang before hand explained im changing gender and live 24/7 female. I asked could they note this on there computer when i got my ticket to say beeing questioned with others. They were great. I tried same with quantas but had a hiccup as where virgin did not put my name as mr mis or ms just put my name quants put Mr on the ticket. A s i went to board the stewardess said welcome aboard SIR. I was very embarressed so i rang them on arrival and explained what happened . They assured me they would try to ensure this does not occuer again. My advice from this. 1 call before and explain.. 2 ask they put down Ms… Miss or Just use the name. Qantas assured me as i HAVE CHILDREN IN VIC,. I WOULD BE TREATED with respect and understanding. There public relations section were understanding. I rang my bank also and explained to them before my first trip en femm. I feel you can plkanb ahead and they work with you:)) When in SA the bank even arranged for a specific teller to see me so there wasnt any dramas.
I will fly qantas 1 more time and as vor virgin well they treated me great calling me maam and miss
cheers
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Anonymous
Guest21/03/2011 at 8:54 amI just read this one and have traveled en fem a few times in over the last few years. I always use my real name and have never had a problem with the staff – both Virgin and Qantas are gender friendly and their staff are well trained in this area. I was treated today when I caught the plane from Sydney to Brisbane. I managed to catch an earlier flight and the Virgin girl changed my name to my fem name without me asking. I am soo keeping that ticket.
Brenda Jane
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Anonymous
Guest23/03/2011 at 1:09 amI traveled from Adelaide to Hobart and back late last year. I wore female clothes (pants, shirt, jacket, tights and shoes etc.) but no make up or nail polish. I chose my clothes carefully and as I looked smart but casual no one gave me a second glance. I also traveled around Tasmania for 6 days dressed in casual female clothing (jeans etc) and not one person noticed or said any thing. You don’t have to wear make up to be dressed as a female just choose your clothes carefully and relax.
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Guest24/03/2011 at 10:55 amHi.
What ever name you have on your birth certs , will be the names the flights centers or airports will use if your going over sea s itll be the same your pics will be of you .
When i went over seas it was under my male names & my female pics as a woman & yes then i was wearing a wig & no you do not have to take your wig off .
if your wearing a wig head wear or scarve that covers your face as to your face can not be seen then & only then youll be asked to remove said items or show your face,
so you are seen or scaned i can fly any were here in N Z or Oz e on my male names even tho im a woman & all my certs are changed to female at birth & the only one not changed is my passport itll be changed when its time to. if you wear breast forms no probs ether.
& as i dont pass facel wise its still not a issue nor has been .& any way if i passed that good id never talk with people , I dont & i meet & talk with a LOT of people & i do stand out with my head wear , scarves .
…noeleena…
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Deleted User17/06/2012 at 10:52 amMy first time on an Airline en femme was back in 2007 and check in staff were courteous. Photo id with a name that matches the name on the flight ticket is all that matters.
The recent news about body scanners at airports might alarm some people contemplating travelling. But I have read that breast forms will not show up with this equipment.
Mmmm not sure whether thats true or not but it any event They have to treat you very carefully if they choose to ask you what you are wearing and in that respect i wouldnt be worried if they wanted to ask questions next time I travel .
Nothing to be embarrassed about !!
Caroline
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Quote:The recent news about body scanners at airports might alarm some people contemplating travelling. But I have read that breast forms will not show up with this equipment.
Going through the scanners is mandatory for travel to an overseas destination from an Australian international airport. I’ve no idea when, not if, they will have their use expanded to include Australian domestic travel.
In the US, it’s optional to go through the scanners. But reading the experiences in a US breast cancer forum, the forms do show up. And that those showing up, in conjunction with other anomalies noted in a scan, can have you put through the full molestation ‘pat down’.
Topic: Full body scanners and foobs
Topic: Air travel with silicone prothesis
Also noted in the first breast cancer thread, apparently these scanners are also being rolled out in the EU. I’ve no idea what their regulations on their use will be though.edit: fix typo
Jenifur Charne
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Well, as some of you know I happen to work at brisbane airport in “security” (we technically arent security, the AFP is the actual security but I digress).
At brisbane airport, we dont happen to have the full body scanners at this time but they are coming but there isnt any indication of the time frame at this time.
I’ll be able to give you more information down the line but I do know that there are various models that display different things.
Some show EVERYTHING but the faces are blurred out (they all show blurred out faces) but others only will show a “stick figure” sort of image where they just show a circle on the image for any issues.
I was in the US a few months ago and went through a full body scanner (I was in guy mode) and I had a polo shirt on with bare arms and left my watch on and they asked about it, telling me I should have put it in my bagMel
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It’s some years ago that I travelled enfemme, 2007 to be precise. Canberra to Melbourne to Canberra by Virgin the same day. The only baggage ws the ubiquitous handbag which did, and still does, carry everything a woman would need during the course of a day.
I travelled under my boy name which does fortunately double as a girl name, so I’m lucky. The only problem I had was my own nervousness, fully aware that every eye in every terminal was glued to me (it wasn’t).
I found Virgin staff amazingly polite, carefully treating me as they would any other passenger, and indeed why not?
At the time my mind was totally elsewhere, frantically worried as to what I was going to say, and what I would be asked. My days appointment was with the gender gurus at the Monash Gender Clinc. Travel was the least of my worries. My worries were all in my mind and totally mine alone, in reality no one gave two hoots who I was nor what I wearing. Have fun.
I have also travelled semi enfemme, to London several times, been scanned in Singapore and need never have worried.Liz 😳