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  • Where have all the Victorians gone?

    Posted by Adrian on 18/01/2011 at 2:56 am

    Out of curiosity I compared the percentage population of the states and territories (from the 2010 census) with the number of TR members from each state.

    If gender diversity occurs equally in all areas of Australia you might expect the Tr membership numbers to reflect the population of the state.
    But the results are quite surprising as shown in this table.

    demographics.jpg

    All the states have a membership within a couple of percentage of the expected – with the exception of Victoria. NSW and ACT are the best represented (maybe due to the proximity of the webmistress!) but VIC is 10% under.

    I can’t believe that there is some factor making Victorians less likely to be gender diverse than their neighbours (including Tasmania). So why is it that they don’t join TR?

    Incidentally the table also shows that the average occurrence of TR membership in Australia is just over one in every 32,000 people. So you are all very special!!!

    Alison_2 replied 14 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Anonymous

    Guest
    18/01/2011 at 3:27 am

    Is the cost of internet services a lot higher in Vic? postal costs are higher to NSW so.. following logic…just a thought ( a silly one yes, but still??)

  • Adrian

    Member
    18/01/2011 at 3:42 am
    Quote:
    Is the cost of internet services a lot higher in Vic? postal costs are higher to NSW so.. following logic…just a thought ( a silly one yes, but still??)

    No I didn’t post in fun stuff!!!
    According to the ABS
    http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/DetailsPage/8153.0Jun%202010?OpenDocument

    NSW has 32% of all internet services in Australia, and Victoria 25%. So the internet penetration per capita in both states appears to be similar

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    18/01/2011 at 3:59 am

    Hi Amanda, I know that you had until recently a long association with Seahorse NSW. That may have helped boost numbers. I don’t believe Seahorse Vic promote TgR in the samr way if any way at all…..in fact I haven’t heard TR mentioned in any TG environment. Perhaps we’re all trying to heep it secret????? Shhhh there’s this site t.r.a.n.n.y.r.a.d.i.o have a look but shhhhh

  • Adrian

    Member
    18/01/2011 at 5:53 am
    Quote:
    Hi Amanda, I know that you had until recently a long association with Seahorse NSW. That may have helped boost numbers.

    I do associate the +4% for NSW, to some degree, with my active involvement in the community. But in the days when I was involved with Seahorse NSW it was more frequently the other way round. People found TR – and then joined Seahorse NSW. Certainly there isn’t a large body of TR members at the moment who are also members of Seahorse NSW – at the most lets say 2% (guessing). Still no where near the -10% that the Victorians have notched up.

    But yes – the absence of a TR evangelist in VIC may be a factor – any volunteers?

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    18/01/2011 at 9:52 am
    Quote:
    …..in fact I haven’t heard TR mentioned in any TG environment. Perhaps we’re all trying to heep it secret????? Shhhh there’s this site t.r.a.n.n.y.r.a.d.i.o have a look but shhhhh

    LOL Gwen
    This topic has been one I’ve been carrying on about for a while now. TR needs some more recognition out there in the world, not just the TG community. However in saying that, I can understand that some members wish for privacy.

    Amy

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    18/01/2011 at 9:56 am
    Quote:
    NSW and ACT are the best represented – – – but VIC is 10% under.

    I can’t believe that there is some factor making Victorians less likely to be gender diverse than their neighbours. So why is it that they don’t join TR?

    Maybe Victorians move to NSW & ACT, then join TrannyRadio?

    I did! I’m an EX-Victorian, an EX-Queenslander (and may return to QLD), and then joined TgR when I moved to Canberra.

    btw, the ACT should have the #1 ranking for Transpeople per capita!

    Clare.

  • Alison_2

    Member
    18/01/2011 at 10:02 pm

    I’m a new member and live in outer Melbourne, I had not heard of this group until I stumbled across it a couple of weeks ago on the internet.

    I’ve known about Seahorse for over 30yrs years, in fact I joined it in the early 80’s but did not remain a member for very long – that’s another story.

    Having spent Sunday at the Melbourne midsummer festival I did not see any mention of our group although the Seahorse Group looked to be very active.

    I was going to talk to the Seahorse girls but changed my mind, so in fairness I don’t know if they mentioned our group to any of the visitors.

    Maybe our group is more out there in other States than it is in Vic. Just a thought.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    19/01/2011 at 2:34 am

    Hi girls , Whaa Hoo !!! Queensland is 22% , so maybee I
    wont be only Queenslander at trans formal this year ???

  • Julia

    Member
    19/01/2011 at 11:35 am

    Do you have stats from say, 4 or 5 years ago to compare to the 2010 figures, Amanda? It would be interesting to see if the percentage was around the 14% mark for Victorian members back then, or whether it differs appreciably. If you look at the last 50 members to join TR, only 7 (14% again!) come from Victoria , which is in line with the current percentage.

    I don’t believe that they would be any less gender diverse than any other state either, so maybe they have alternatives to TR that those of us north of the Murray are unaware of?

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    19/01/2011 at 9:32 pm

    Hi.
    I was one of the Seahorse girls at Midsumma Carnival.
    Our little area (3Mx3m) cost us $270 for “Midsumma Store Holders Levy” and $200 for “Storeholders Liability Insurance”….
    We had information produced by us and from other Victorian based “Trans Groups”
    -Seahorse Victoria
    -Zoe Belle Gender Centre
    -Ausgender
    -ButhcFemmeTrans Melbourne
    -TransGenderVictoria
    -Y Gender
    -Melbourne Gender Queer
    on our table. We were handing out information “as required” to people “depending on their questions”
    Lots of people stopped and said their hellos..

    Quote:
    Having spent Sunday at the Melbourne midsummer festival I did not see any mention of our group although the Seahorse Group looked to be very active.

    I was going to talk to the Seahorse girls but changed my mind, so in fairness I don’t know if they mentioned our group to any of the visitors. “

    Midsumma is a Victorian GLBTI celebration… You should have come for a chat… Many did… Can i ask who “our group is ?

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    20/01/2011 at 10:41 pm

    Like Sally, I too was at Midsumma on the Seahorse Stall and I also placed a notice on Trannyradio as we do with all our public events etc. Seahorse Victoria also publishes a pamphlett as Sally mentioned with all the Victorian trans groups and contact details etc. All the other groups were invited to join us, and every scrap of information from them was gathered and handed out on request.
    Trannyradio does have a lot of SHV members past and present registered. We do reccomend it as a good site for people.
    There was also a large trans picnic at Midsumma, attended by many, with the SHV stall used as the meeting place.
    I think one difference here, well with SHV anyway is that we are not really an online group like a lot of others. We believe and encourage real life activities and we are well known in Victoria, all anyone has to do is approach us or ask someone who we are!
    We have and still are undergoing a lot of changes within the group and are also, along with Y-GENDER one of the few groups that is trans inclusive. We do not judge or discriminate, and are open to all.
    If you were at Midsumma, you should have come and had a chat, we don’t bite, and anything that may have happened involving SH in the past, and it really is the past, has no bearing on what we as a group now promote. Come and join us in the PRIDE MARCH on the 6th of February, we have a few of the other Victorian groups joining us and individuals are more than welcome to march in our group- we encourage it.
    In a nutshell, I think maybe Victoria is pretty well catered for when it comes to support from trans groups and social activities.
    Any other Victorians care to comment?

  • Alison_2

    Member
    20/01/2011 at 10:53 pm

    Sally_C – “our group” was referring to Trannyradio.

    You are right I should have come for a chat, my partner did her best to try and persuade me to.

    It’s a silly, and maybe a pathetic, excuse but even after all these years I still have difficulty in talking about ‘Alison’ when I am not her.

    I have always had the two of us separated, we don’t wear each others clothes and we very much try to keep our lives apart. I guess this comes from a survival instinct and not wanting to be caught out in those early years.

    I can, and do, move my mind over to ‘Alison’ when I am out shopping but in the main I still keep them very separate.

    My partner says I am embarrassed about being Alison but I disagree – well I would wouldn’t I ! but I recon it’s more to do with the fact I can’t put my mind to being ‘Alison’ if I am not in her. Does that make sense?

    Yes my partner did try to get Alison to go into Melbourne but as we went in by train I just didn’t have enough courage for the hour long trip. Looking back on the day I am still glad Alison stayed at home, maybe next year she can go to the ball, woops festival.

    My new partner gives me all the confidence in the world, and I know how lucky that makes me, but I need to go out with other girls in public and have that ‘safety in numbers’ before going on a train and mixing with huge crowds of the general public.