CDs and Engineers

[Anonymous]

Hi Girls,

Just to continue the train theme, in the Chameleons here in the West, we have one real train driver who also volunteers as a driver on a miniature railway at a local picnic ground and also likes model trains. The same person travelled the US with a couple of mates just to watch US trains! We have two ex-members who are avid model train buffs, one retiring from the Club ‘cos our meetings clashed with one of the two model railway clubs she belongs to. Our other ex-member is busy re-creating a particular English railway from the 19th century but don’t ask me which one.

Terri

[Anonymous]

Hi Girls,

Just to continue the train theme, in the Chameleons here in the West, we have one real train driver who also volunteers as a driver on a miniature railway at a local picnic ground and also likes model trains. The same person travelled the US with a couple of mates just to watch US trains! We have two ex-members who are avid model train buffs, one retiring from the Club ‘cos our meetings clashed with one of the two model railway clubs she belongs to. Our other ex-member is busy re-creating a particular English railway from the 19th century but don’t ask me which one.

Terri

[Terri_2]

Thanks Michelle
my program shows fri 7th, I’ll be away but I’ve already set the recorder, stange but I’m also interested in model trains
maybe the generally colder weather in Britain allows one to wear girly gear more discreetly than here? a bit hard to wear a bra & tights when your’e wearing a light shirt & shorts without them being a bit obvious
Terri

[Anonymous]

Speaking of Cds and engineers !
Im an engineer as well ,but I feel my becoming and engineer was independent of being a crossdresser – lie I had a lifelong ambition to do Engineering and the Cd part came along later .However , it seems to me that many men in very male orientated occupations are crossdressers and Iv eread thta this may be a form of denial for them (and perhaps me ) . Perhaps men who secretly desire to cross dress become quite macho to suppress or compensate for this urge to dress ….
any on ehave similar views ?
Hugs and luv
Suzz

[Anonymous]

I think that you may well be right about being more macho Suzzanne. I’ve always been interested with rail since my early childhood and have had an application in with QR for the last 12 months. Also I used to do armored combat in full Plate Armour . When I finally came out some of my friends reactions where along the lines that I was one of the most butch blokes that they new, now I think they’re starting to understand.

That proverbial river is an easy place to live, and no matter how much you deny it what ever you are hiding from will show itself in a different form, quite often as over compensation in an opposing direction, ‘Girls aren’t into trains and heavy machinery. If I go in that direction then I won’t be queer right?’ is a one possible answer. But that may only be a part of it.

My ex-flatmate’s daughter suffers from aspergisis syndrome as well as my nephew. both of these kids are madly into trains, I’ve since discovered that this is c common thread with these children.

Or could it just be that I’m a railfan (at the moment if I get the job with QR I may start feeling the way I do about bus spotters. WHY? ) who happens to be in transition

[Anonymous]

I have absolutely no interest in trains, however I did do a Metal Trade when I left school and worked at it for 11 years. I was dressing in female attire and had certain feelings well well before I ever thought about my career path.

When I left school I chose that career simply because I was good at it and did not know what else to do. At that time in the 70s I did not know of the options available to me for TG people as I was so very deeply in the closet. The information simply was not out there like it is today.

[Fay]

Thanks ladies, i will be tuning in also.
Well that’s it! Must be something in the genes. I too am an engineer and an avid and active model railway buff. Never miss the October exibition and on more than several occasions I am sure I have spotted a CD or two at the show. Maybe 38″ C cups are somehow related to C38s. 😆
Michele, we must make an effort to meet up, I’m sure we have a lot in common to talk about.
Tootle Loo.

[Alice]

Quote:

it seems to me that many men in very male orientated occupations are crossdressers and Iv eread thta this may be a form of denial for them (and perhaps me ) . Perhaps men who secretly desire to cross dress become quite macho to suppress or compensate for this urge to dress ….
any on ehave similar views ?
Hugs and luv
Suzz

I don’t think I’ve ever seen it that way. As an engineer (with an obscene number of letters after my name), I’ve never ever considered engineering to be a macho career.

If anything, I see it as a very gender neutral career. It is also a highly analytical career, and in some ways I suspect that that may be why so many engineers are CDs. The type of brain that attracts someone to engineering is also a type of brain that attracts them to CDing.

I had been CDing for many years before I made the career choice between computer science and engineering. Makes me wonder how many computer scientists are also CDs.

Alice

[Anonymous]

Hi Gals,
What about pilots? Seems to be a lot of us too. Have finally met some one else in my small country town who I believe to be a CD and I met him flying. I wonder if any of the Group A drivers or ralley drivers are CD’s?

[Anonymous]

I was pleasantly surised at how many tranny wargamers there were as well. For a small(ish) hobby it seems to have more than its fair share of men in frocks.

‘Transvestite Wives’ was shown in the UK months ago, but I never saw it. My sister videotaped it for me though, and sent me a copy. And I still haven’t watched it. Now it’s in a crate on its way from the UK. One day I’ll get to see it; I won’t be able to see it when its transmitted as we don’t get any TV reception where we live. Yet.

Reviews in the UK tranny community were generally positive.

[Anonymous]

“that many men in very male orientated occupations are crossdressers and Iv eread thta this may be a form of denial for them”

A TS friend of mine says that this was precisely the reason she went into engineering. There seem to be a lot of TS girls who have been in the military at some stage as well, which may be another form of denial.

[Anonymous]

well, judy was dressing since i was 4 ,,, but was always interested in trains. mum left me watching steam trains go past hurstville staion when it was still just a station when she went shopping. was a member of amra at rockdale in the 70s. Now live at valley heights next to main line. Love to get into live steam but havent got 20k to spare. but yes many transgender people i have spoken to over the years have been into trains.

Stockings and a skirt verses a steam train.

cannot answer that ,, i want both.

Judy

[Anonymous]

In this day and age, many people are into many things, male and female at that. There are lots of girls all over the world who build their own hot cars and hot rods etc. There are heaps that are out there being mechanics [like me!], driving semi trailers, b-doubles and also road trains in central oz. You could literally write a book to list all of the male dominated professions that females are working in and being successful at that.

As I said, I am a mechanic, have been for my whole working life. I also have started driving a garbage truck on every 2nd weekend to help pay for my house. One that you have to get out all of the time to drag the bins to the truck at that.

Quite simply, there was no “being a mechanic etc.” to counter the female influence that happened in my life, the feminine urge just happened naturally. It was a wonderful thing to let happen as well. My life is better now than it ever was and I am proud to still be working in a male dominated profession. I’m not going to come out at work because I can’t risk the income for my house which apart from being a girl is my goal in life. My outlook is that “girls can do anything” and that is what I’m doing. I will get my house and I will be a girl and if I have to dress as a guy to get an income in the short term, so be it.

I know that this is a slightly different take on the subject, but the general line of thinking may be more common than you realise!

Peta A.

[June]

Interesting, macho careers. So where does that leave your CPA. Is accounting macho, the green ink and ink stains on your clothes, the excitement of a ledger balance.

Hmm, I will have to change my occupation to something more hairy chested like dressmaking or being an Avon lady.

Mind you I do make model cars and have a train set somewhere.

June

[Anonymous]

An interesting topic,I myself used to do the macho thing,my first job when I left school was working in a wrecking yard for nearly 2 years,then worked on a poultry farm about 4 1/2 years,from there I went to an iron foundry for nearly 4 years,after which I worked for holdens at elizabeth for 10 years until I had to give up work to be full time carer for my ex wife,(nearly 8 years)then got a job at a vegetable packing plant for the past 3 years,and the only reason I took on my earlier jobs was to try and prove myself like so many other girls out have also done.I cant say that I really regret it though,as I feel that having had these jobs and the things i’ve learnt,and experiences i’ve had along the way have helped to make me who I am today.would i do the same again if I had my time over?I’m not sure,if i was growing up in this day and age I’d probably come out at a much younger age,as it seems to be a lot easier to do so now than when I was growing up in the 70’s,what do the rest of you girls think?regards,Cate