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Do you ever go out in public NOT with cd/tg people?
I guess this question is directed at the part time girls
For those of us who go out in public,
When you do go out (in girl mode), do you ever do it in a group of non cd/tg people or at least not exclusively other cd’ers?
And if yes, do you ever just go to the movies, a sporting event, a concert, a cafe or anything like that in girl mode? -
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Mel,
The times I have been out have been on my own and normally consist of a nice walk around safe streets for an hour or so. Recently I have gone out a couple of times to a friend’s place dressed and spent two or three hours relaxing in a non-threatening environment. It has done wonders for my confidence so that when it comes time to go out on the town, I’ll be ready, confident and will enjpy o
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As a part time gurl I normally go out alone shopping, paying bills and on Anzac day went to the club for a couple of hours. I just love shopping en femme especially when I see a dress I would like to buy.
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I go out very regularly in female mode and, in recent years, since the start of my latest ‘incarnation’ around year 2000 – always alone. I shop for clothes and business stuff, bank, fill the car with petrol and have coffee – and when urgency sets in – go to the ladies loo. I have to say I prefer the freedom and flexibility of going out alone. The longest period I’ve gone out is maybe 3 – 4 hours because my time is usually limited. But I’ve never had any problems.
I have been out with a couple of times with non tgs in the past when I was younger with both genders – though I can’t say I have vast experience of it. With a group of girls there was a bit of an over excited novelty aspect for them – and after a short while the novelty wore off for me. I’m not sure that I’d ever have been regarded as just one of the girls. When I was young I mean 21 or so, an older lady once accompanied me and another young tranny and that was a great experience.
I’ve always had the need to out as a female and, if I was prevented from going out dressed for any reason I’d probably give up dressing, get depressed and generally fester.
Fiona xx
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From my earliest experiences and experiments I needed go out! I used to take some appalling risks, like slip out of the house where I lived with my parents at three in the morning, I was about sixteen at the time, it was part of my compulsion.
I wanted to go out in public, shopping, dinner whatever. I preferred to go out with real girls, occasionally I would go to places with other c.d.’s but we seemed to attract the wrong sort of attention .
I did most of my outings with girls I knew from work. I seemed to be fortunate in that regard as most of the girls I got close to didn’t seem to mind and on more than a few occasions used to ask to go out with Helen as they had fun.
(What does that tell you about the ‘boy’ me, boring? Surely not!!!
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I have, until recently, gone out only by myself or sometimes with a GG. The pluses are the freedom to go where and when I want, and interact with the public at any level I choose. The downside is the inability to share an experience with a friend.
More recently I have also enjoyed the occasional dinner wth several Sydney members of TrannyRadio. This is a great way of meeting some very interesting people and sharing experiences over dinner.
Conclusion … just being out be it with friends or by yourself is good.
Michelle
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When I go out in public, I go alone and it’s partly by choice.
I am self employed, I’m not out to many people but I do know that my male and female appearances are different enough that very few people can recognise me. Even a woman who did a bra fitting for me while en femme wasn’t sure if it was the same person when I went to the same shop a couple of weeks later in male mode.
Going out with my wife could cause problems due to people recognising her and working out who I am. Going out with my 4yo son could cause even bigger problems because he always calls me dad, even when I’m dressed. I’m still trying to train him to call me Alice when I’m dressed. I might have to work on getting him to call me Aunty Alice.
My experience with going out with other CDs is that two separately fairly passable girls are not passable when together. For that reason, I don’t go out shopping, etc with other girls. When I go out to cafe nights, I still make my best effort to be passable even though I know that the group situation means that I won’t pass.
If I was out with enough non-CDs to be able to go out with them (and be the only CD in a group), I’d love to do that!
Alice
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Quote:Going out with my wife could cause problems due to people recognising her and working out who I am. Going out with my 4yo son could cause even bigger problems because he always calls me dad, even when I’m dressed. I’m still trying to train him to call me Alice when I’m dressed. I might have to work on getting him to call me Aunty Alice.
I gave up on getting my kids to call me Ella or anything else. People call me “Mum” or “Mother” when I am with then, and I respect that, no one has, when I’m out, called me “Dad” if I’m wearing a skirt, which is 99% of the time. So the kids can call me what they want – I’m not their Aunty.
Quote:My experience with going out with other CDs is that two separately fairly passable girls are not passable when together. For that reason, I don’t go out shopping, etc with other girls. When I go out to cafe nights, I still make my best effort to be passable even though I know that the group situation means that I won’t pass.I can’t say I’ve had that experience, but then, I go out with TS and very serious CDs who never let their male and female lines cross. May CD’s act as blokes when they are not in front of people (like online) my CD friends will always be female and act accordingly, even if they aren’t in CD mode.
Quote:If I was out with enough non-CDs to be able to go out with them (and be the only CD in a group), I’d love to do that!What you want to go out with a bunch of GG’s? Isn’t that eery guys fantasy?
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you can certainly call me part time, I’ve been out to cafes with small groups of up to 40CD friends, and as minimal as just me and my best GG friend, Cheryl. I’ve been to the movies, pubs clubs and even Star city casino a few times as well. All this has happened in the last 18 months since I first got that kick in the backside from Wendy and Linda to get out the door the first time.
The excitement of my first shopping trip alone is one I’ll never forget, because I’d been out with the girls at night a few times prior my confidence was so high that a half hour visit (I was seriously nervous going in but it disappeared seconds after walking in) to the mall took 4 hours, July last year, I’ll never forget it.
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Hi All
Well I live in a small (redneck) town which has its advantages and disadvantages. Main disadvantages are that every one knows every one some where and news will travel fast. With this it can make hell for every one that relates to you, even freinds kids can be bullied because they know you.
Advantages been once you have a few main people that understand and know you as a normal person that are on your side, they tend to stickup for you to the end.
So my experances started as dressing at home and only going out to places like the beach with freinds at night when no one else was around. From there I started going out of town to bigger population area like Brisbane, with the fact that no one knows you and you are not looked at twice. This way you can be 24/7 while you are away and the places you go and the people you meet will only ever know you as female and you have no problems. (just a bit of a strange chick lol)
I have been dressed in public for more than two weeks 24/7 at a time and have so many new friends that only know me as female. Comming home can be a drag but. lol
Now I have made me mind up on what I want and will be aiming to be full time early 2009, but have not been out in the streets at my home town yet, some of my wider range of friends now know, but are easying them all into the idea by not rubbing it in their face.
With that I have been leaving in the dark early morning and arriving home from my trips after dark, but now I am moving forward it does not seem so important, today I came home at lunch time dressed, unloaded my car, did some stuff outside around the house before getting changed, no one even noticed it was me and I was only asked who the girl was that was staying with me, I just laughed and said “o yes that was Kelly” and left it at that.
Its been like a drug for me, the more I got the more I wanted and I have never been happier.
xxxx
Kelly Jones
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Quote:Comming home can be a drag but. lol
Don’t you mean DRAB???
Sydney can be the same, but I found going fulltime was easy, everyone just accepted me if they had known me for years and new people just knew me as a woman. No biggy.
Most of the fear is in yourself.
I have some wankers up the road from me who heckle me when I walk past with my daughters, or even if I’m with my wifelette and I’m half DRAB. Mind you these boys and girls are low economic, grossly over weight and seem to have to scream out “Sexy legs” at me for osme reason even if my wifelette walks past in the same outfit an hour later – she gets ignored. Weird.
If I ever get asked why I’m dressed as a woman – I sipley reply with “Why are you” or for the guys “Why aren’t you?”
Just think about that for a sec
(smile)
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All the best, Kelly.
It’s a series of ever easier steps it seems (I hope in your case as well) Your support group of friends sound like they’ll help you rather than desert you and that ain’t bad!!!!
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Hi Helen through personal circumstances nearly all of my outings have been by myself and even though more difficult during the day. The married partner syndrome really. Like everyone it just sort of happened the pressure just got so much that sitting at home (this was when I was retrenched) just became unsatisfactory so I had to go out. Around the block in the car, then the rush around a car park, a walk down the street and back etc. Eventually I felt confident enough to go into a shop for clothes, then reading posts here off to the DFS. Each time no one really took any notice, but I learned that like a GG you do not do the male thing of seeking eye contact. It works. This not to say I have been careless as there are places and times I would not consider it eg some local shops during school holidays. Call me a coward but while the majority of people are tolerant (and that is all I really ask as I would never be mistaken for anything other than what I am) a group of teen age girls in full flight would be intolerable. Following advice from some of the girls I have therefore gone further a field and each time with a bit of thought it’s been liberating eg shopping in girl mode(Longline Shoes Paramatta, Maggie T Mosman, Birkehead point etc), ggoig to the movies (Roseville Cinema) and after a purge a night at the ballet followed by a meal at a Sydney Opera House restaurant (I contacted them told them I was trasgendered) and they couldn’t of been nicer. Likewise the other patrons and yes I do have a photo to prove it to myself and te remember the night. This was ideal for me though and fits with what I like. I was very lucky when my wife was away to join the TgR girls at Newtown. I met some lovely people and thoroughly enjoyed the meal and walking together in the rain. We all then went to the pub music as loud so couldn’t talk and to be honest I don’t like pubs as him so why would I as her. Thing is you have to do what you are comfortable with and what works for you and go at your own pace. If you do go out by yourself just be confident dress appropriately enjoy but as we project managers say do a proper risk assessment. Something GG do naturally. Alana[/img] ps haven’t posted before so if this is full of errors or a gaggle of emoticons my apologies!
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Alana,
I can identify with the story. Am ready to go out with other girls to dinner etc and your story gives me more confidence to do it. I’m hoping to make it to the Ball in Sydney. if I do, then it’ll be my first real time out as a girl with the girls. No need to say that I am looking forward to it.
All the very best, loved reading about your experiences.
Hugs
Helen
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Hello everyone.
To add to this discussion. I go out where ever I want. I firstly started venturing out to safe locations which catered for the transgender community. And I just evolved from their.
Now, I spend most of my time out in the main stream of society. And only occasionally do I get the oppurtunity to go out with other Gurls.
One time I was in a crowded room at a party, and I realise I was the only ” Gurl ” their was a bit of an outer body experience. But it didn’t last for long, now it is just the norm.
I recently had lunch in the city on a Saturday, and noticed that a lot of people were staring at me. I mentioned this to my male companion. And he replied, of course they are. Their all starring at your breasts, just like I am.
So I ask you is, it good that people notice you, or is it bad. Or dose it really matter.
Huggs Linda
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Interesting Topic – for whatever reason I have always gone out either alone or with non-CS, Non-TS, Non-TG people. I’m fortunate enough to have gone out with my wife – only interstate – on several occasions. Mostly, they were to dining or the theatre (stage and ballet) but we’ve also been shopping.
I consider my self extremenly lucky to have nearly 10 acquaintances who know about Briony and who are available to join me out. One lady (a former workmate who was only told about Briony after I left) and who is also a friend of my wife is a regular, if not frequent, companion at lunch.
When the ‘right group’ of people happen to be coming to dinner at home or at one of their homes, then Briony usually attends.My preference (other than with my wife) is to go out in small mixed groups of about 4. Uusally – 1 male and 2 GG’s and Briony. to date, I’ve never been out solo with a male.
The obvious question is why not with other CD’s, TS or TG folks ? I guess it is because my only experiences (in my early days) seemed to always end up in a drag queen or very heavy gay (not lesbian) environment. As Briony, I think of myself as truely female and tend to seek out “other” females. Lesbian-envy??.
In writing this, I realise that this sounds very intolerant or whatever of others in the same situation as me. However, that’s a feeling that I’ve never been able to change. Now, I’m in the extremely lucky position (?) that I no longer consider that as an option.
