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wearing a skirt without wearing a skirt
Hi Girls
I was just wondering if anyone out there wears clothes that can be worn by either sex for example at the moment I am sitting here in a sarong and a T shirt and I also like wearing a kilt propper scotish one these type of clothes are just like skirts but you can get away with wearing them
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There’s always the Greek kilt, very femme.
http://www.livingtravel.com/europe/greece/greece_1.htm%5B/url%5D
Not sure if this is what you mean though
Helen
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I am sorry however I wish to delete this post for personal reasons and do not know how to do it………………………………
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That is what I mean and isnt it amazing how many other cultures where guys actually do wear a skirt or type of dress and it is quite acceptable for that to happen
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This article posted on the net maybe of interest to how many millions of men around the world wear unbifurcated clothing
Is It True That Men Used To Wear Skirts etc?!
Yes, all the time in bygone times! The Romans wore skirts and conquered half the planet! Before the invention of trousers (about 300 years ago), men worldwide wore various forms of robes, dresses and skirts. Gradually after the invention of trousers, unbifurcated clothing became gradually associated with femininity – Why?! Skirted garments remained for some time though even if they were only worn on formal occasions.
As little as 100 years ago, Boys and Girls up to the age of 13 were dressed identically in dresses. Trousers are a very new invention and it still amazes me that men took to them so keenly with scant regard to the comfort that they were leaving behind.
What About Non Westernised Cultures, Did They Ditch Their Skirts As Well?
No, perhaps it was the heat, but in many countries within Asia, The Middle East, Africa as well as many Pacific islands, skirts for men is still considered normal attire. And of course, there are the Scots (so maybe the heat has nothing to do with it!)
In early 2000 when Fiji was in the news over the Military Coup the whole world saw men in skirts! Actually, these were not skirts, but rather the traditional Sulu – A normally colourful wrap around calf length skirt like garment worn by both men and women. The Sulu is the main item of clothing worn in Fiji. Its worn both for work and play.
Goto Thailand, Malaysia, Bali or Indonesia and discover that many men in these countries dress in colourful sarongs.
In India, Pakistan and various Arab countries, men wear dress like garments such as the Caftan and Djellaba.
The Scottish and Irish still wear their kilts. Skirted men are also normal in many african countries
How Long Have Women Been Wearing Trousers
Believe it or not, Trousers for women have only been accepted for about 50 years!! During the second world war while the men were away, the women were working in the factories fueling the war effort. Skirts are not particularly practical when working with moving machinery, so the women wore trousers while at work (but still wore skirts outside work!). After the war, women were not so keen to give up their trousers and so a select few continued to wear them. They still had a hard time getting trousers accepted as normal womens attire but 5 years later, women in trousers was a common sight and was considered normal.
The Men in skirts movement is currently at the same stage as the women in trousers movement was 50 years ago. If we manage to acheive complete acceptance in the 5 years that it took women then I will be overjoyed, but somehow I feel that our societies’ inbuilt preducices against men in anything other than trousers means that we men will have to wait longer for our fashion freedom.
It was arguable the humble denim jeans trouser helped women as it was the first trouser to be marketed as unisex. I believe that a denim skirt would stand the best chance as being accepted as a unisex garment – but the fashion houses that have introduced skirts for men still created junk and then wondered why it did not sell.
Can I buy skirts today that were designed for men?
Many fashion houses have tried producing mens skirts over the past 5 years. Some sold, some did not, and unfortunately, none of these manufacturers kept up the momentum or marketed the product very well.
Over the last 5 Years, H&M, C&A, Topman, Tommy Halfinger, The Gap, Levis, Hermer, Mountain Hardware, Utilikilts, New Yorker, and many independants have produced designs for mens skirts or Kilts.
Currently, Men In Time, Mountain Hardware, Utilikilts, 21st Century Kilts, AMOK, MIDAS Clothing and New Yorker have mens skirts and kilts available.
Why Rock the Boat?
This is the sort of question that only a man who has not tried clothing without a crotch would ask! The answer is for the most part, Comfort. Ask most skirt wearing women why they choose skirts over shorts or trousers and comfort is the answer you will get. As one fellow skirt wearer once said “A man in trousers is like an aircraft with the undercarrage down, and the undercarrage doors closed!” – Ouch! We got the whole man/women, trousers/skirt thing the wrong way around – trousers being anatomically correct for women, and anatomically incorrect for men.
There are of course other reasons why skirts are worn, they are a fun garment with infinite style possibilities. They could also be described as sensual.
Is It Just About Unbifurcated Clothing?
No, but this is an obvious place to start! This website is a vehicle to discuss anything in life where men are unessesarily limited. Mens lib if you like. Women have spent the past 200 years fighting for their rights. They have been successfull to the extent that todays women is as respected as todays man.
Unfortunately, men have not been fighting to maintain their rights, and while women have gone forward, men have gone backwards. Take a look at the forums and discover the wide range of Fashion Freedom and mens social subjects that we discuss.
cheers
Rhi
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I’m not sure if it’s been happening lately but I recall watching the band Guns ‘n’ Roses, the lead singer used to wear a kilt on stage.
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opps, I missed the point of this thread earlier on.
Well some Church leaders male and femaile wear a type of dress when taking their sermons, don’t know what you call them but some of them are quite decorated.
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Well I wear female clothing at the time and my wife washes them, but that is all she knows. I wear patterned cotton womens undies jean long type shorts some a little above the knee and some below and a colorfull “V’ neck top with cross over. Some magenta and that’s bright, some pink, purple, light green etc.. And go to work in them: self employed.
I have thrown out 90% of my male clothing I also have women’s cargo shorts with a shorter leg. Wear womens track suit as PJ’s . My wifecalls me a transvestite and I call her a lesbian.
I told her womens clothes a more comfortable and that was before hormones. I also said I went to Target [during winter] and said how morbid all the dark clothing is. I love color!!. I do stop at frills and lace. To much of the cat out the bag then.
My wife tells me before I changed wardrobe that she understands transgender people and they can’t help it. Very understanding dear, I thought to myself, your test is comming.
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Quote:I’m not sure if it’s been happening lately but I recall watching the band Guns ‘n’ Roses, the lead singer used to wear a kilt on stage.
Yep, Good old Axl Rose, I remember hearing when I was 15 that 4 school boys got suspended from a public school because they wore skirts to school, their reason being, they want to be like Axl Rose!
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And then there was Mick Jaggers dress at that concert in London, when they released the birds for Brian! Hypocrites! David Bowie springs to mind, in a top and skirt, full skirt too if I recall correctly. He also had a bee hive hair do!
I don’t mean the pic of on the album cover, there was one where he was standing performing, make-up the whole bit, wish I could find a link! -
Helen Hi, the Bowie video clip you refer to was him performing the song “Boys keep Swinging” off the 1979 album “LODGER” which he co-wrote with Brian Eno. He played three women on the clip. Hope this is of help. HAIL THE KING-BOWIE!!!
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Hi, thanks for that info, I had been hunting through the net and had been googling like crazy for the pic. He is a supurb performer.
Cheers,
HelenQuote:Helen Hi, the Bowie video clip you refer to was him performing the song “Boys keep Swinging” off the 1979 album “LODGER” which he co-wrote with Brian Eno. He played three women on the clip. Hope this is of help. HAIL THE KING-BOWIE!!! -
Hi Dianne from a fellow territorian. i wear sarongs in summer and have done for a few years now, it is certainly much more comfortable in the heat!
My ex (who knew nothing about Mel) first talked me into wearing one and I discovered the freedom of movement and comfort (especially in the “undercarriage” 😳 ) was wonderful! It also gave me an excuse to wear a skirt publicly (well I only wear them at home).
My daughters see a sarong as perfectly acceptable because men in other countries wear them (they don’t know about Mel either) so I just love my sarongs and will continue to wear them.
I wish you much love, peace and joy
Mel
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thats one of the good things about the territory no bats an eyelid when you wear a sarong I wear one all the time it is so comfy like you say when its hot
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Hi all
Well its not exactly men wearing skirts in public …But I notice a grownig trend with both genders to be seen in public wearing “Compression Tights “either under short or just with a Tshirt .The tights are the same as worn by athletes or footy players – ie ‘SKins ‘ and now quite a lot by cricketeers.I see peopl around this area of Sydney wearing them when walking the dog or doing coffee or like .
The thing is that if your walk around wearing tights in most placs you probably wont be stared at , as most will assume youve been playing sport or are just being trendy.
Damm it, I dont care why the things are acceptable, but it is a unisex fashiion now so if you like wearing tight s go buy a pair .Also, since many brands are just plain black or navy you can get away with sheaper brands …
Perhaps its a start of a whole new fashion , but I doubt it
Who would hav ethough big boofy Macho footy players would start such a trend ?
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Quote:I notice a grownig trend with both genders to be seen in public wearing “Compression Tights “either under short or just with a Tshirt .The tights are the same as worn .Also, since many brands are just plain black or navy you can get away with sheaper brands .SUZZANNE
If they were fish-nets would that give the game away? **LOL**
Helen
