Breast implants

[Anonymous]

After many years of waiting, I had the op thirteen months ago…an interesting experience.

As to living with them, no real worries, you get used to the getting in the way!
The experience has been positive with little reaction from others ; it does seem that most people think its a personal thing.Did notice them my self when a foto appeared in the local paper, though. Should mention that I present [mostly] as male, and work in a male environment. Only one former friend had a problem , but the breasts were part of a bigger issue between us.

And they are great when dressed…love plunges and cleavege and to show it off!

Write off the forum for details

[Anonymous]

Living as a man with breasts? So you have not taken hormones? You present as a man? ………………………with breasts? You identify as transgender, you present as a man and you want to undergo breast augmentation?
How did you present this to a psychiatrist? What were his/her views on this?

[Adrian]

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You want breasts but you want to conceal them? I don’t understand. Why exactly do you want breasts?

I think the original post answers that quite clearly.
“I classify myself as being Transgender but am not willing to ‘go the whole hog’ and live full time, although that may change in the future.
Anyway, I just want to present as men most of the time.”
Tatiana I believe wants to hide her breasts at those times when she is presenting as a male.

Personally I see no inconsistency in someone wanting to physically position themselves somewhere along the gender spectrum but also wishing to maintain the ability to pass as a binary male when necessary or desired.
It is clearly part of the gender diversity this website supports.

[Adrian]

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Living as a man with breasts? So you have not taken hormones? You present as a man? ………………………with breasts? You identify as transgender, you present as a man and you want to undergo breast augmentation?
How did you present this to a psychiatrist? What were his/her views on this?

There have been a number of posts recently that seem to present a narrow view of what is acceptable behaviour in the gender diverse community. I wish to state that this is not an attitude that is supported by TR.
These forums are a place where anyone should be able to discuss gender issues without fear of personal criticism. In this context any attempt to dictate the behaviour of others is unhelpful.

If you have strong personal norms as to what is or isn’t acceptable in our community then please refrain from asserting them in a way that might give offense to others who hold differing views.

Our first response should be to understand how diverse our community is and then, where possible, offer unconditional support.

[Anonymous]

Quite so Amanda.
The only person we can be is our true selves, as diverse as that can be.
My earliest memories were of wanting breasts and this desire persisted for life. It was only in later life that I found that actually there was more behind that. Not that there might be here, just saying that judgement of someone else truly held desires is not helpful to anyone. In rephrasing I think if you can’t be either contributing or positive to someone elses situatiuon then it’s best to hold your opinions close……a position I’m sure Amanda will be gobsmacked about coming from me. We all change
Gwen

[Anonymous]

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There have been a number of posts recently that seem to present a narrow view of what is acceptable behaviour in the gender diverse community. I wish to state that this is not an attitude that is supported by TR.
These forums are a place where anyone should be able to discuss gender issues without fear of personal criticism. In this context any attempt to dictate the behaviour of others is unhelpful.

If you have strong personal norms as to what is or isn’t acceptable in our community then please refrain from asserting them in a way that might give offense to others who hold differing views.

Our first response should be to understand how diverse our community is and then, where possible, offer unconditional support.

Couldn’t agree more Amanda. Our community is a small and diverse one…the last thing we need to do is start attacking each other…

[Anonymous]

My question was why do you want breasts when you’ll just hide them?

I don’t feel that his words truly quenched my understanding.

you have a desire to play with them behinds closed doors? But then hide them while in public? I’m just curious to your exact reasons and how you presented this to your psychiatrist, and if comfortable his/her response.

[Anonymous]

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There have been a number of posts recently that seem to present a narrow view of what is acceptable behaviour in the gender diverse community. I wish to state that this is not an attitude that is supported by TR.
These forums are a place where anyone should be able to discuss gender issues without fear of personal criticism. In this context any attempt to dictate the behaviour of others is unhelpful.

If you have strong personal norms as to what is or isn’t acceptable in our community then please refrain from asserting them in a way that might give offense to others who hold differing views.

Our first response should be to understand how diverse our community is and then, where possible, offer unconditional support.

Typically you misinterpret me and automatically assume ill will from me..hhmmmm.

If you reread my post you will see that I merely requested clarity as I don’t understand the situation completely.

I don’t see anything narrow minded or anything offensive at all that you’ve suggested and to be honest I’m quite insulted.

Do you have some kind of personal issue with me that you are letting cloud your better moderating judgement?? Something doesn’t add up.

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Tatiana I can assure you that I mean no ill will that amanda has suggested I hope you are not put off from her assumptions. And you are under no obligation to answer any questions you are uncomfortable with.xo

[Anonymous]

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Living as a man with breasts? So you have not taken hormones? You present as a man? ………………………with breasts? You identify as transgender, you present as a man and you want to undergo breast augmentation?
How did you present this to a psychiatrist? What were his/her views on this?

I’d like to know what the physc thinks too or is it perhaps that i dont understand why you or any one would want to do this and not live full time as a girl…. Would this not be the same as wanting to take hormones and not living full time ????????

[Anonymous]

There has been a lot of discussion here and it doesn’t actually work with what Tatiana has said in her original post. I cannot provide her with an answer but I will stick up for her however. She is quite simply asking if there is anyone else out there in her type of situation or with her type of feelings. If that original post WAS read properly then everyone who replied in a different manner to that has hijacked a subject that they shoudn’t have.

There are many different aspects to our community and Tatiana should be respected here. If you ARE in her situation she would like to make contact with you, not be questioned by everyone else.

Peta A.

P.S. If this post gets taken away then I won’t be here anymore either so think carefully……
Moderator

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I can’t think why it would be deleted – except accidentally whilst deleting the off-topic posts …because this post is actually on topic. Thanks Peta!

[Anonymous]

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There has been a lot of discussion here and it doesn’t actually work with what Tatiana has said in her original post. I cannot provide her with an answer but I will stick up for her however. She is quite simply asking if there is anyone else out there in her type of situation or with her type of feelings. If that original post WAS read properly then everyone who replied in a different manner to that has hijacked a subject that they shoudn’t have.

There are many different aspects to our community and Tatiana should be respected here. If you ARE in her situation she would like to make contact with you, not be questioned by everyone else.

Peta A.

P.S. If this post gets taken away then I won’t be here anymore either so think carefully……

I was curious about asking those questions not saying it is wrong

[Anonymous]

I need to voice some likemindedness with Muffin.

I have no difficulty accepting we all need to find our own comfort space, but. If you “want to be a man most of the time” then you seriously need to ask yourself why you want breasts, especially if you’re looking for a means to conceal them “most of the time”. (I see you’re a very new member of TR so maybe you still need to learn about alternatives)

I was a late bloomer. From age 15 to 32 I lived with my arms folded across my chest – my ex even complained I slept that way. Good things come to those who wait

I was routinely accused of being anorexic, until I hit 50. And then I found myself in titty heaven. A modest weight gain over several years and I grew out of 2 cup sizes. Bliss

[Adrian]

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I’d like to know what the physc thinks too or is it perhaps that i dont understand why you or any one would want to do this and not live full time as a girl…. Would this not be the same as wanting to take hormones and not living full time ????????
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I was curious about asking those questions not saying it is wrong

These threads are certainly flushing out stereotypes about our community – I hope in the process we do not ignore the original poster and her needs!

No – there is absolutely nothing wrong with taking hormones without the intent to go full time IF that provides a better way of reconciling your inner gender with your physical appearance.
I presume (because I have no direct experience) that the same applies in that someone who does not feel they fit into a binary gender model may find that having breast implants in some way reconciles things.

Those who see the world as just men and women and who deprecate anything in between have a lot to learn from understanding many people on this forum. Gender diversity is so much richer than a simple man or woman decision. If you see life that way then perhaps your decisions are easier to make than for others who are ‘more mixed up’ in gender.

My comments about posts, including some from Muffin, are that they seem to come from a binary viewpoint and as such can give offense to others who do not believe they should be forced into a man or woman solution. If I have misinterpreted anyone’s postings I apologize, but such misunderstandings can be avoided by wording your posts in an a more obviously inclusive way.

[Anonymous]

In reply to a couple of posts about, ‘why have them if you want to hide them most of the time?’. It is not so I can play with them behind closed doors ( which I found to be an unnecessarily obnoxious thing to say). It is because I am not currently living full time as a female for personal reasons that I do not find the need to disclose at this time. So rather than create stress from strolling around with my chest out looking for confrontation I intend to conceal them when not presenting as female.

Apart from finding a mental state that let’s me be at peace with being in the wrong body, until I can correct the situation through science, getting implants is something real I can do without turning my life upside down at the moment. I do not intend to take hormones so that leaves surgery for head, chest and downstairs (if I have the balls to go through that :wink:). I do not think it is anyone elses business which order I proceed in.

Also I would agree with people who have stated that we are on this site to support each other and not push our own particular view on others. If someone is a cross dresser, gay, straight, Transgender or something altogether different that is up to them. If you want to add me to a list it would be Transgender/transexual. I know I am in the wrong type of body and I will adjust it as I see fit.

[Anonymous]

Tatiana,

If the time’s not right for you to ‘come out’, then when will the right time be? You need to address and/or understand the reasons why you’re not ready. If you want breasts, now, then you’re talking about living “full-time”.

I’ve lived as a woman for 25 years. It took a while to tell family. For me that was easy, I lived 1000 miles away. I will continue to repeat the advice I give
1. It’s not a race
2. Nothing is compulsory
3. It about how you live, & for many valid reasons HRT & surgery are not options for some.

Please, you’ll receive a vast amount of support from the girls on TR, especially those of us who live full-time, if that’s where you believe you need to go. We understand what you say you’re feeling. We live it. If we question what you’re saying, it’s because we’ve already jumped through all the hoops, and we know it’s not a matter of turning up to a surgeon with a cheque book and saying, “I want”.

Arohanui & Blessings