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The one and only thread – how do you identify yourself?
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I have to agree with Miss Peta, this is the wrong section for this thread.
Ladies
I don’t understand what the problem isI do not wish our TR community to label ourselves in box.
I’ve read many books, articles and spoke many times with my shrink. None of these guys know why we do the things we do. They always quote some bulls**t that was written in the 1950’s.
At the end of the day, do whatever you wish to do. Live your life and be happy. You can get hit by a bus tomorrow or get swine flu.
I can say this honestly and with experience, No one gives a s**t, socially or in the work place. Be yourself and don’t be afraid!!
No one gives a crap if you’re a CD, TV, TG or TS.
Love and peace
Amy
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a beatiful appreciation of the subject amy we all seem to get on pretty well together lets just keep doing what we love doing and not worry about names as you say amy love and peace hugs joeanne
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I think Amy is correct judging by her language, placing this thread in fun stuff (public) is possibly the wrong section as this question can open up a wide range of opinion more suited to a serious section.
Like several people here I do not like the term transsexual or transvestite, when I came out to my wife I use the term cross dresser it was an easy to understand title. But now that I am looking at our community I can see how a umbrella term would be useful to describe everyone!
But in using one word to describe everyone is very narrowminded and to me this is one of the things I hoped people like us would not be. I do not think there is the right way of describing us all, I think it is still up to the individual to stand up and use the term they like best.
I still use the term cross dresser but I do find transgender is fine to describe myself.
Penny
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Quote:I have to agree with Miss Peta, this is the wrong section for this thread.
Ladies
I don’t understand what the problem isI do not wish our TR community to label ourselves in box.
I’ve read many books, articles and spoke many times with my shrink. None of these guys know why we do the things we do. They always quote some bulls**t that was written in the 1950’s.
At the end of the day, do whatever you wish to do. Live your life and be happy. You can get hit by a bus tomorrow or get swine flu.
I can say this honestly and with experience, No one gives a s**t, socially or in the work place. Be yourself and don’t be afraid!!
No one gives a crap if you’re a CD, TV, TG or TS.
Love and peace
Amy
xxAmy,
I agree with what you have said above. However in my situation I do run a small (tiny) business and I have to tell my customers, suppliers who have known me for many years as a male that I am something, especially when I suddenly turn up wearing a dress and my name is changed.
To those who do not know me and have met for the first time as Anthea, I do not owe them any explanation or label, I am just another female.
Unfortunately people do like labels and can relate to them, it just a matter of choosing the one (if you choose to use one) that fits you the best IMO, especially to people who are not apart of our community.
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I’ve moved this to a more appropriate forum…
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My problem with any and all of the ‘trans’ labels is, what do they actually mean? What a word may mean to you or I is often quite different from what it means to a non-trans person. Even within the all encompassing umbrella, you will hear something different from everyone you ask.
Since I was a pre-schooler, probably since I began to speak, I’ve said “I’m a girl”. Nothing has changed. I have never been able to see myself as anything other than female. Always, I have not been able to accommodate a trans label, and then my Birth Certificate was corrected to say that I am a woman.
But then where do I/we fit – Fa’afafina, Kathoey, Hijra, Kwido, two spirit, or even the old biblical eunich? All they are are labels to define our ‘difference’, to marginalise and compartmentalise us. “You are, therefore you must be like this”. Sorry. There’s not too many of us who fit a mould.
I gave myself permission to be myself. I ceased living someone elses expectations.
Enjoy living your life and be yourself
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Quote:I have to tell my customers, suppliers who have known me for many years as a male that I am something, especially when I suddenly turn up wearing a dress and my name is changed.
Hi Anth
I agree with you, that’s why the umbrella term of “Transgender” is appropriate to use, nothing else is required, just my opinion. That’s what I use although medically I am referenced as a transsexual.
Sorry, I don’t think I explained myself properly. I really don’t like labels.It takes human beings like us to bring awareness to the general public, if we can open their hearts and minds to transgenderisim, then that’s a good thing. It will help the future generations and perhaps reduce the suicide rate of trans people, which is at 75% the last time I read it somewhere. I always think of the younger trans people, MTF or FTM, they have such a hard time, especially going through school and teenage years…..breaks my heart
Amy
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I just see myself as a girl i hate putting a term on it cause it makes me feel like im different from other girls, every day I wake up I see myself as the girl I am, I do everything the same as a girl would and I don’t need to think about pretending when out I just act as I normally would its hard to act as a boy.
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Hi All
I am just a girl in my new life and I have been living full time for a while now. I introduce my self as female.
BUT :::: When I had to explain to everyone that knew me when I was transitioning that I was something they could understand. I needed to keep my self respect and not make it sound like a dirty thing, as some people had only heard of trans-hookers as trannies. I did not want to be put in that box with them, so I used the term Transgender.
Transgender keeps the word sex out transsexual and due to the fact I was full time I was not a CD. Tranny was out as I was not in the sex trade that they all thought the term ment …. so transgender was the safest to start with. I then explained terms and labels as they asked.
But now I am just the girl next door and when I moved house no one knows me as any different, which is nice.
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Kelly Jones
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Quote:Hi Helen
I personally believe we are all transgendered.Disagree.
I am a man who crossdresses…plain and simple…
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Well, as I started the thread and this is the ‘Wrong place’, it’s my fault.
I was just a simple question.
I’m not putting anyone in a box, not defining anyone or their being. Just curious as to what term or phrase even, anyone when talking to a friend and you wanted to tell them about yourself.
Helensity
Quote:I have to agree with Miss Peta, this is the wrong section for this thread.
Ladies
I don’t understand what the problem is
I do not wish our TR community to label ourselves in box.
No one gives a crap if you’re a CD, TV, TG or TS.
Love and peace
Amy
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I was going to say the same as Lina, I am a crossdresser, perhaps transgendered, but would use the expression crossdresser or CD because I have no intention now of taking it further. Transgender implies to me a desire to go beyond putting a frock and wig on for relaxation etc.
I like being a man sometimes, and when I am crossdressed I feel a woman enough to keep me happy for the moment.
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I must agree with June and Miss-Lina. I crossdress because it allows me to feel and express my feminine side to the degree that I am comfortable with. I have no desire to transition but do enjoy the feeling of dressing and acting feminine and particularily when I can interact with others such as restaurant nights and socials. It’ a pity I can’t get out more often,
So I guess I classify myself as a CD.
Cheers,
Fay
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i guess this thread shows that there is a whole gamut of types, experiences, and desires that any one word doesn’t necessarily meet. i posted this link elsewhere on tr (under links, if my memory serves me well):
http://nctequality.org/Resources/NCTE_TransTerminology.pdf
from the national centre for transgender equality (usa).
so i guess it’s kind of like going to a restaurant and choosing from a menu.
for me, i guess i am a transgender woman but could easily fit into a number of other definitions too. at the end of the day, i am what i am … some single word descriptions may not be enough.
one criticsm of the ncte list (and i don’t think they are trying to cover every possibility) is that there is no word for people who get a sexual thrill out of dressing in the clothing of the opposite sex. is this because it is a taboo thing? or something that is shameful (for whatever reason – and i’m not saying that it necessarily is – just as much as some people find being tied up with ropes or wear latex or both at the same time sexually exciting)? or maybe there’s just no word for it yet.
does anyone have a word for these people in the transgender spectrum? or is it a subset of cross dressing? or is it something else altogether?
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Quote:….. it will help the future generations and perhaps reduce the suicide rate of trans people, which is at 75% …..
Really? That seems to be an awfully high level! That would imply quite a few of TR’s 550 odd members won’t be with us next year, or more likely, that the 75% of the gender diverse population referred too never actually find refuge in a place like TR?
Let alone discover public resources and centres which may assist them with their gender identity issues!
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