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I think this is more common than many people think. It’s the route I’ve been on for the last 2 years. I do have one or more outings in girl mode a month to restore my faith in where I am heading but hormones and electrolysis while in boy jeans and shirt are the main deal.

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Depending on your circumstances, the probabilities of being charged under such legislation can be usurped by (a) carrying a Stat. Dec declaring that your (male) identity AND your (female) identity are one in the same, and / or (b) a birth cert identifying your female identity as a registered alias.
Both forms of identity are legitimate Australian Federal Government legally recognised documents; complete with appropriate penalties for misuse, including imprisionment.

Happy travels
Catherine

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ClaireStafford wrote:

The comments re heat and keeping cool brings tp mind summer evenings in Melbourne many years ago when the heat waves lasted for weeks. Going to group meetings was often an interesting sight as the make-up tended to slide south. Add a wig and padding and ne tended to feel quite warm. A friend informed of a tip she picked up. Using a roll anti=perspirant on the forehead and temples, above the lips etc.
As for Queensland’s summers, they seem to be very interesting at the moment, all that snow looks quite out of place.

Thanks for the antiperspirant tip Claire, that might solve the biggest negative summer brings for me. But having got rid of my body hair, I love showing off my arms and legs. On the other hand I love my boots so I can handle both seasons.

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That was a great clip to start my day with. Thanks Sara.

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For clarity: as expressed previously; “middle ground” is a continuum that exists in the uniqueness of each and everyone of us. My “middle ground or going for broke” cannot be replicated in anyone else because of my uniqueness. Your middle ground is something totally differently to the next person.

“Going for broke” is not exclusive to gender expression. It pervades every stratum of each individuals life. It can be an attitude of; do I want to apply for the CEO’s job, through to; do I want to live, today. It’s all about how each person perceives, “middle ground.”

And for further clarity; I have not come from an “entrenched” enclave, surrounding myself with like minded people. If anything the opposite is true. It is perhaps the diversity of lifestyle and environments that I come from, that is creating some misunderstanding.

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You strike a very interesting nail on the head, Chantelle,

Chantelle wrote:

I’ve been taking the “middle ground” of not fully expressing my identity in order to reduce the chance of hurting and losing people I love.

As does Adrian

Adrian wrote:

I think this is a true middle ground. One that isn’t a compromise, and one that isn’t constrained by a lack of appetite for risk or discomfort

I tend to believe the middle ground you have defined, it too, lives in a continuum, if our uniqueness is to be upheld.

Having completed a part of this endless journey, I can definitely say; my delusion of thinking that hiding my expressions would somehow mitergate the hurt and loss of those I love was so far from the truth. It was my dishonesty in hiding my true self that created the biggest hurt and loss. This fact has been expressed by most people in my “Inner Sanctum” ; and I’ve heard it expressed in other circles, by other people. The lack of total truth and honesty is by far the single biggest factor in relationship breakdowns. The lack of it, hurts exponentially more, than the use of it.

The amazing part is, the fears and doubts that held me back for so many years, never realised themselves. Fear, the acronym for false evidence appearing real is so true. My Armageddon never came. Driven by an ever increasing appertite to live in a supposed state of discomfort has lead me to a life of richness that is mine today. Living an expression of total truth, honesty and authenticity is second to none.

Certainly, I lost a lot during that part of the journey, but what I gained, and continue to gain is expotential. What I “lost” I didn’t really deserve in the first place.

It all gets back to how each and everyone of us are prepared to either negotiate “middle ground” or go for broke and live a life that is waiting for us. It’s up to our individual uniqueness.

Catherine

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Well maybe form manufacturers don’t produce gravity challenged shapes but then grow your owns are similar. I may be in my 60s but my boobs are just 2 years old. My wife laughingly describes them as “teenage”.

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This iView thing is brilliant. I just watched Episode 1 of Forbidden Love. I think it was even better than E2, more honest with ups and downs. E2 was a bit Pollyanna. Both well worth watching though.

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Hi Caty. You beat me by that ..much. I just watched E2 on iview and came on here to recommend it. I’ll have to try E1 now.

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Julie wrote:

I would like to thank you ladies for you’re forthright opinion and experiences as for medical reasons HRT is not an option for me it is good to know what I am or not missing. How would implants rate sorry if this is off topic

Hi Julie,
You ask one very important question, and make an interesting statement

In an attempt to remain subjective in my answer I’d like to recant a recent experience of mine. Recently I’ve had the pleasure of physically supporting 2 women through their BA procedures. After several days post operatively as the affects of surgery wore off, both women reported a varying degrees of psychological discomfort. It’s is best described as a disassociation of the implants, not being a natural part of their body. One woman suffered a mild case and with appropriate counseling has moved forward from this position and assimilating to the procedure in a more natural manner. The other woman, even 9 months out is still having disassociation dysphoria. I have since spoken to the surgeon in confidence about this issue, where upon the surgeon commented this is not uncommon.for any prosthesis procedure.

If I may err on the side of objectivity, I, myself am blessed in this department and enjoy the benefits of the appropriate HT.

If this post still exists at the discression of the moderator, I’d like to challenge your comment on “medical reasons” impeding your development in this matter. The question I ask is, Have you rigerously pursued every avenue of HT ? I don’t expect, nor ask a reply to that question. It’s a question only you can answer. After all you’re the one that has to live with yourself, we don’t. You, like everyone else is governed by , our altitude is subject to our attitude. (yes – way off topic – please discuss this privately if you wish)

I hope this has thrown some objectivity into the discussion

Best wishes for your future
Catherine

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From existing posts, and my own experience, I believe “middle ground” spells self compromise; mediocrity. A “journey” as described by Paulo Coelho in his book, The Alchemist, has no destination; even when the Shepard boy returned to the sycamore tree to find his treasure, simply continued the “journey.” for him.

As far as I’m concerned, my journey has only just begun. Having reached the so called “epitome” some 2 years ago, what has transpired since can only be considered the opening titles. Living truly in the unimaginable reality leaves one in a constant state of awe, as new events and unimaginable horizons appear; solely dependent on my ability and attitude to accept them.

Be it known: You; each and everyone here, can achieve the unimaginable reality; the so called impossible. You just have to believe you can; and it’s done so. Accept mediocrity and your fate is sealed. Trust me; you can make the impossible happen. Miracles take about an hour longer.

Think about it, then surprise yourself and do it. Or just exist and struggle in mediocrity

Catherine

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According to the SMH of 10 June, police arrested a 23 year old man at Newtown Police Station on Tuesday 9 June and charged him with affray over the alleged bashing. He has been given conditional bail to appear in Newtown Local Court on 9 July. Police called for more witnesses to come forward.

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I’ve been a bit of a cynic about Caitlyn but now I’m swinging over to feeling sorry for her. I mean she had a “committee” to select her new name. The poor soul has no control over her life.

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Adrian wrote:

Carol wrote:

OK they don’t look as good/prominent as the forms but they do feel right for me.

Let’s try and keep this thread objective. Ignoring what subjectively you think is right or best; just how does the feeling compare? I guess because the real breasts don’t look (to others) as good then you are confirming the difference in shape is significant to you. What about sensitivity, weight etc? How would you describe in feeling between the two? Is there any?

I think we are trying to compare chalk and cheese because my real ones are smaller and lighter than my old forms. My real ones don’t bounce as much but probably would if they were bigger. Obviously there is virtually no sensitivity from the silicone ones and like Caty when wearing them I needed access to my own nipples from time to time. Cleavage was unsatisfactory with forms and better with my own. Comfort better with my own but silicone was still pretty good. Shape definitely better with silicone.

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I’ll ignore my experience with funny little enhancers bought on the internet and jump straight to my first good quality forms bought after a personal fitting to go with my new 18C bras. They fitted into the bra so well that I never felt like they needed gluing on. The bounce was fantastic when I first ran through the traffic to an ATM on the other side. I ran back even though there were no cars just to repeat the experience. Size was right for my chest size too. To me at the time They were “real”.
However I started growing my own and long before they filled a B cup (and they still haven’t properly filled a C cup),I became so enthused with the feel and proud of my success that I stopped wearing forms. OK they don’t look as good/prominent as the forms but they do feel right for me.
So if you’ve never felt real ones don’t worry you’ll never know what you are missing and well fitted forms will be fantastic. If you have grown your own, you won’t need convincing of what is best.